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  1. So, they're trying what worked in the 1960s and 1970s in the US to increase numbers. That, more than anything, shows how utterly out of touch they are. Then again, the people at the top may just want to keep the lights on until they can squirrel away a nest egg and extract all the financial value they can out of twi, then split and not care if the doors shut or not.
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  2. Yep......that is a *kind* assessment. After 23 years of post-twi acknowledging how abusive, exploitive, dysfunctional and pathetic The Way International was and is ...... there is no way that I can use euphemisms regarding Wierwille's narcissism and pathologies to deceive others. The Way International was/is a cult, because wierwille was a lazy, plagiarist, predator and profiteer. The whole marketing scheme was "get butts in chairs for classes and big events and fleece their money thru guilt." Since PFAL '77..... big event after big event as the cult leader, wierwille, pontificates and rehashes B.G. Leonard's (and Bullinger's) material. Wierwille was a fraudster. He talked big, but behinds the scenes the con was in full gear. Enablers stocked his motor coach with Drambuie and his aides, bodyguards, became procurers inviting select young corps girls to wierwille's lair, motor coach. Sick, twisted, destructive evil. So, no.....I have NO euphemisms for wierwille's "leadership and ministry." Outreach Beyond vpw's congregation ```` The Six Stages of Wierwille's Climb to Power ```` At this stage of the game......I assert that twi's directors and splinter group leaders RIDE THE COATTAILS OF WIERWILLE, because it's the *only game* that gives them access to gullible pfal-followers. In a galaxy far, far away......a generation of youth became mesmerized with a cult of personality. Like a fish caught on a line, the "believer" was reeled into the net. There was subliminal messaging throughout pfal...... once you hear "the Word" (wierwille's 33-hrs of pfal rehashing), DO NOT ALLOW anyone to ever talk you out of it. No matter that wierwille couldn't walk the spiritual walk..... but instead smoked like a chimney, a drunkard, a striker, a bully, kept pornography, a serial plagiarist and sexual predator. Some people succumb to spiritual abuse and are institutionalized. Some people see the ruse and break those chains to gain freedom. .
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  3. No idea, far as answers. It's been pete and repeat there since Day One, with some occasional bright lights surfacing. A lot of what the Way did with VPW's direction was to adopt and re label and re design existing programs and systems. He'd been exposed to the liberal Protestant meta physical teachings and efforts by Glen Clark, Mosley, Daily and others, the "Ashrams", all of that. He talked a lot about that in the 60's and early 70's that I heard from him. He didn't really connect the "Jesus People" movement on the West Coast to that, in a practical way though, he never spoke of the doctrinal or theological underpinnings, at least that I heard. Despite wanting to be a Big Thinker he lacked a methodology to synthesize ideas, he was a tad clumsy in that regard and more inclined to assemble, copy and rename. So where there were Glenn Clark and his "Camp Farthest Out" and retreats, VPW called his getaways "Advances" which I think was a name already getting used, I forget who else might have been using it - "renewal" was a favored term too, nothing wrong with any of them I guess but my point is that VPW tended to do pretty much what others had or were doing and he just renamed them and made them out to be his own ideas. The sense of ownership that comes with things we come up with and work to accomplish that may not be actually "new" aside, it seemed he knew exactly what he was doing in that regard. So - what the Way is doing by building loosely on their own past and using that is probably a combination of a sense of pursuing a thread of godliness in their past and doing what they know how to do. Even at my kindest I'd have to say the Way was never led by the brightest bulbs. Anyone with education, talent and motivation was expected to put on the nametag and move the program he wanted to put in place. Anyone with education, talent and motivation either didn't stay or was booted out at some point, leaving the Most Average of the Average to mind the store. Others had the mindset of survival so they kept on for the 3 hots and the cot. I hear news of what they're doing and as kindly as I can put it - it sounds about right. I just don't expect much from them, and can't see why I would.
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  4. On top of that.. has anyone else noticed how the vicster has other people address him in his dialog in the class? like the deal in india.. "that a man o gawd".. or other dialog, "well, DR Wierwille.." nooo.. he wouldn't call himself that.. but he'd have Johnny Jumpup do it for him..
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