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Aha! Yep. That's it. That's what I remember seeing. Nice work, OldSkool!

Damn, T-Bone. Flashback trigger. My aunt and uncle and cousins were in Amway. This was their life. Relentless driving hundreds of miles through the night while listening to propaganda tapes. All the driving. The classes. The meetings. The speakers. The teachers. The books. The tapes. The coffee. The phony love bombing. The prosperity gospel. The pressure to sign people up. The fantasy. So many parallels to TWI and victor's scheme. Of course, Amway is a cult just like TWI. They always referred to it as "The Business." NEVER Amway. Much like TWI zombies call it "The Ministry." These parallels may have been evident to me in the past, but your description of the cult prosperity grind vividly brought it into my present awareness.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011211140140/http://www.greasespotcafe.com/editorial/the-final-decree.htm This one took some work to find, but here is the final decree on the Allen Lawsuit and it proves that Rosalie knew of Martindale's affairs and that the way international was going to trial on four of the original six counts filed by the Allen's.

From Bright-sided: How the relentless promotion of positive thinking has undermined America (2009) page 44, the last paragraph of the chapter in which Ehrenreich details her breast cancer diagnosis. Her next chapter is about years of magical thinking. Both chapters reveal much insight against which the culture/subculture of The Way can be measured and is most definitely found wanting. Wierwille's cult morphed from American culture into a very sadistic organism in which misfortune, to which everyone is ultimately subject, is blamed for their/our fate by reimagining the myth of blame as a violation of the cult's standards. IOW, you didn't effing believe enough to overcome. That leaves people who do not rightfully own said blame, taking it upon themselves anyway.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000510234811/http://www.waydale.com/main/docs-main.html https://web.archive.org/web/20011129230710/http://www.greasespotcafe.com:80/ For those who want the main menus to use...

And the start of GSC: http://web.archive.org/web/20011129230710/http://www.greasespotcafe.com:80/

GSC did and the originals can be found here: http://web.archive.org/web/20000510234811/http://www.waydale.com/main/docs-main.html

Here ya go! And they paid all that money for them to take waydale down and it's forever preserved on the good ole internet. http://web.archive.org/web/20000511203809/http://www.waydale.com/

Waysider posted this originally. REPOST Posted 29 July 2006 - 08:42 PM A number of years ago a young couple, who were friends of mine, asked me to attend a business oportunity meeting they were going to present for a small group of people. Their description of what was to be presented was very vague . This vagueness was , of course , intentional. My suspicion was that this would be a recruitment meeting for Axway. The gentleman conducting the meeting stated very early on that there were to be no questions until the end. Sound familiar? Well, as the meeting progressed, he showed how, if Bob recruited Joe, and Joe recruited Betty, And Betty recruited Connie , and Connie RECRUITED----------in the end we would all be filthy rich. People raised their hands to ask questions as he spoke, but he continued to assure everyone all questions would be answered at the end. When he finally revealed that the product this company sold was actually soap, an elderly lady, who seemed harmless enough, raised her hand from the back row. The man running the meeting let down his guard for just a moment and said "yes ma'am?". She immediately stood up and said "Who the hell is supposed to sell the SOAP?' It kind of makes me wonder "who the hell was supposed to LIVE the abundant life?" Not complaining-------just pondering.