Rocky

If you go to YouTube to view the video, that might help. By any chance do you use a private virtual network? The issue may be related to that... if so it might be CBS news doesn't like that. I viewed it on YT with no problem.

I'm hoping that when Ken Burns' (not the one who was in the 9th Way Corps) latest project, a 12-hour (magnum) opus on the American Revolution, airs in November 2025, there will be a worldwide renewed reverence for what Burns declares has been the most important event in world history since Jesus Christ.

Oh.

1) Men wrote the scriptures, not God. 2) How would the scenario you suggest God should/could have used have proven his existence?

A couple of book titles that might relate to this thread: https://www.amazon.com/Being-Wrong-Adventures-Margin-Error/dp/0061176052/ and https://www.amazon.com/Coherent-Mind-Quantum-Lali-Love-ebook/dp/B0F6YCDP2Z/

Are you questioning my right to add (or try to) perspective? This question is rhetorical. Does not need to be answered.

No. I corrected your mistake. You referred to Wierwille's Birth Certificate. That's incorrect. The post in question actually referred to his DEATH certificate. It matters to me when materially incorrect posts need to be corrected in order to avoid significant misunderstandings.

Just another way to gaslight people (those still donating to their not-for-profit church). Does it matter anymore?

... nevertheless still emotionally immature. self-justifying rationalizations through and through (by TWI and Victor Wierwille).

Reminds me of that song "I saw the darkness..."

Except when one goes to the first post on the thread and clicks the link in that post. It directly references two LONG time twi followers. For reference, here is that link. https://restitutio.org/2020/02/06/313-questioning-way-international-doctrines-william-barlow/

Stoic philosophy can and does enable a person to walk in the confidence and calmness, etc. that Paul's epistles as we know them say are "fruit of the spirit."

Where'd you get your data to back up that (specious) claim?

It seems there were a couple of the ten commandments covering lying and stealing. I wonder if they might be the part of the Old Testament Law that we don't need to bother complying with these day.

You're entitled to have an opinion. That does NOT mean it's at all credible.

Btw, I don't project anything on to him. I was in the corps(e) 40 some years ago. I'm not interested in what he would or would not have wanted. I'm interested in what he said and did. From a strictly critical analysis perspective, it was his ministry. His organization. He wasn't about to let anyone disagree with him and get away with it.

How sure are you that he did NOT teach that HIS teachings were the Word of God? Whether he ever used those words or not is irrelevant. His actions, his exercise of excommunication ALL consistently DID mean that Victor's words were the Word of God.

IF anything, teaching the concept without the deceptive bias, TWI actually OWES service to the believers/followers.

Which translates to: Tithe Identification: What Tithe is Paid by Christians? I appreciate the practice with French language translation (I still have to use google translate). Immutable my BEE-hind.

Pardon me if I misunderstand, but if God had set it up as a law, wouldn't there be a one to one ratio of action and reaction? Why don't they (or anyone else) just call it the concept of giving (and receiving)? One would think they could expand on it to include the organization's understanding of what the believer's giving is conceptually supposed to be used for... and perhaps expand the teaching to include TWI responsibility to contribute to community support organizations, at least 10 percent of gross receipts.

IOW, if the organization badgers you about how much you need to give them, it's a cult. BTW, Mormon churches do that too.