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I fixed that for you.

Whatever is clever. I guess it could be anything except what scripture actually says it is: God destroyed those cites and the evidence is in plain sight. I posted the vid for these types of discussions though. Good stuff.

Which leads to the obvious, unfortunate truth that martindale didn't really know just what in the actueal heck he was talking about.

You have unraveled a great mystery for me - I never understood why people would say AOS was a rip-off of Staying Alive. I kept thinking I saw the movie and there wasn't anything like the "seed dance" in it. Now I realize that I was actually thinking of the movie Saturday Night Fever where Stayin' Alive was the opening song. I never knew about this movie which surprises me because I love to watch dance movies (Footloose/Kevin Bacon, Dirty Dancing/Patrick Swayze, Flashdance/Jennifer Beals [with the help of body and dance doubles] dancing to What a Feeling). So when I saw this scene above from the movie Staying Alive, it all made sense except after 30 seconds, I couldn't stand to watch any more - it so reminded me of AOS plus I just could not understand why such a similar dance, setting and costumes would be in a major motion picture. My momentary confusion was because of having seen the AOS video first and so often that it felt like the movie was copying it (instead of the other way round) which was a real freaky feeling. Since then I've watched a bit more but I haven't decided whether to watch the whole movie to see what the storyline for the Satan's Alley dance was. Anyway, still trying to figure out which athletic sports have any of the moves shown in AOS - if you know of any, please enlighten me.

"grads"* ----- "The kind of research to be done there was to VERIFY what VPW had already found from God's guidance." Verify via the five senses, of course. Yet so many of vic's cookies crumble, even when handled under the most generous empirical and spiritual scrutiny. To VERIFY errors, mistakes, lies, fictions, and bullshonta requires willful ignorance and deliberate dishonesty -- five senses dishonesty AND spiritual dishonesty. "VPW taught against [REAL research] in the tape and print record, but we all were slow to understand. Admitting this is not a good look, after all, it's called a RESEARCH ministry not a VERIFICATION ministry. Who could be blamed for being slow to understand 3=5? Absurd. "(1) Are you thinking of where VPW suggested in the film class that we put aside all our reading material for THREE MONTHS and read nothing but the CHURCH EPISTLES ?" A suggestion no less foolish and impractical. A mere alternate route to the same destructive destination. And who will privately interpret those epistles? Ol' VP will, that's who. It's still all about control. "(2) Are you thinking of at the end of his life VPW suggested to his top leaders (and all of us) that we master the foundational and intermediate classes and the written materials that come with them ?" This is the culmination of all he had to teach? His final "lost" teaching? Crawl with the epistles, but run with the collaterals and classes?!?! Notice the conspicuous omission of his Advanced Class and its paper "keys" to walking with the spirit. "(3) Are you thinking of the 20 year review of the collaterals that I did from 1998 to 2018 ?" No.** "Also during that time period I heard VPW suggest that the Harvard Classics were good to read, and that he really wanted all his top leaders to read them." I finally have insight into my fellowship commander's*** melodramatic declaration that civilization had reached it'll peak in the 19th century -- oh, how he longed to live in that great century! Charles Eliot was a man limited to his period, and by the 1980s the Harvard Classics, though classic, were as incomplete as ever and woefully in need of updates. And who, having given all their spare income to the cult, could have afforded this 50-volume series? ----- * Remember graduating from the 5th grade? Yeah, it's like that. ** I normally wouldn't speak for Rocky, but I'm confident I can here. *** Headquarters. All that military imagery. Hey! I didn't organize this cult.

In retrospect all of the warning signs were there from the beginning regarding VPW's predatorial and sordid nature.