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"Ralph, you once were one of the finest and brightest. As I noted to you in our previous exchange, I was a fan. What happened to you? Is this how you're following "the Boss" these days? Is this what you, walking out the Lord's business 30 years later, look like? When he tells you to make your calling and election sure, is this what you do - hang out in chat rooms, bullying and insulting people? Have you forgotten, or does it even matter to you any longer, that the Lord hates bullies? When the Lord tells you to walk as he did, with lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love, I'm curious - what courses through yourgrey matter? Do these verses get a chance to bump around in your soul a little, or do you just summarily dismiss them as irrelevantso you can get back to railing on your brethren? Is venom and derision all you have left?"<br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px;"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px;">"As for my qualifications, I suppose you're right. I have no theological qualifications ... outside of the holy spirit the Lord gave me and the Bible in my hand. It certainly is very humbling. The wonderful news, however, is that I'm among very good company, since these were precisely the qualifications of most of those biblical characters we know and love. I'm sure glad that the Paul didn't hold Peter to the same standards of authenticity that you seem to want to hold me to, brother. The funny thing is, I was under the impression that a person's true credentials come from Jesus, since the Bible teaches that "... it is not the one who commends himself who is approved, but the one whom the Lord commends." As I recall, you used to teach this very thing, once upon a time. Do you now disagree with this, Ralph? If so, why? " Jon.......".......the finest and the brightest" at what and among whom? You were "a fan"? Of what? I find it strange that you seem to have enough memories about me to declare you used to be a "fan", and yet, you claim to have no knowledge or recollection of Momentus and your TLTF connection to it and Dan Tocchini. You are a twustee of TLTF, and yet you have no idea what Momentus was and how it destroyed the lives of many of your "chief minister's" followers in CES and STFI? Really Jon?? Convenient memory loss? If you indeed have no knowledge about Momentus and it's connection to the International community of Christian believers you claim TLTF is, then i suggest you either refresh your memory or resign as a twustee of a "ministry" you don't seem to be very knowledgable of, or just plain misspeaking about. Ask your "chief minister" what Momentus was. Jally dumped them too when he couldn't freely plagiarize Tocchini's stuff any more due to "doctrinal differences" between them. Same thing with Schoenheit, Graeser, Gallagher, Patten, Theissens, and everybody else your mog has "tried to work with". Try disagreeing and you'll be next, unless you've still got stuff jally needs to use you for. "hang out in chat rooms bullying and insulting people"? This is a forum for discussing twit and its various off shoots, of which TLTF is a part. I respond to your post and all of a sudden i'm "bullying and insulting people"? Name two please. As far as "how I walk out The Lord's business", whatever that means, your opinion of how i might be doing that is as meaningless to me as anything else your "chief minister" may have an opinion about. "venom and derision'? I'm not sure that your assessment of what goes on in my functional grey matter is worth any more than that of your "chief minister". He still has not answered any of my questions from 2007! Momentus have his tongue? OOppps! Sorry! You don't know anything about Momentus, yet somehow you and jallyroll "know" what's going on in my mind? I think not, Jon. Venom and derision? Examples please, since there must be so many!? For one who feigns profundity with pedantic, meaningless, quotes of 200 year old smarmy, self-righteous opinions which agree with your archaic understanding of the bible, your "insights" into my grey matter are remarkably shallow at best. As far as what YOU "recall" me teaching 30 years ago or not, for someone who has no idea what Momentus was and how it directly relates to the "international community of christian believers" YOUR "ministry" purports to represent, and of which you are a moggy twustee right now, i trust your memory as much as i trust your "chief minister's'. He can"t recall me ever confronting him publicly either, and if you scroll down just a few threads right here in this same forum you're posting in, you'll find a thread addressed to him and his old pal, jeff blackburn, which did exactly that for 3 months daily! and, that was 8 years ago! Some "recall" you dudes have!......LOL! I suppose you have no clue about "personal prophecy" either, do you? Watch out for spiders crawling out of your pals' noses!! Happened to Lizzy Chavez and jally divorced her over it! Who's next? You? Not Bottley, because jally still needs stuff Franco has. He doesn't see the spiders until he's done using you, and, from what i can see here, you don't have much left for jally to use. Better take a memory class from jal's old pal davey bedard. That'll help! But, if jally divorces you, "rev" gerry wrenn will gladly suck you up. There's always a home for wierwille idolators. and, if i disagree with anything i taught 30 years ago, it just might be because, unlike you and jallyroll lynn, i have refused to stay stuck on stupid. I have spent much time in study, critical thought, and self-reflection, regarding all things biblical, scriptural, and spiritual, and have grown far away from 30 year old alcoholic Nazi spiritualism, and the serial adultery and sexual predation that vic and jalvis were so good at and committed to "walking out on". I believe human growth and development are an ongoing part of human life. jalvis believes he got everything he needed to "run a ministry" from vic'n'twit and schoenheit and graesers. He has not repented nor moved on for 30 years now. He's running out of time. dictor paul wierwille, lynn's prayshuss faddah in da woid, ran out of time 30 years ago. jalvis still has a little left. You and he and Bottley need to do the right thing. Dump your charts and get a REAL life....................peace.

The term 'so heavenly minded, of no earthly use' springs to mind....well, I'd like to think there's a bit of 'heaven' in his mind somewhere !!