Caveman

Right, it isn't a law as it was taught in PFAL, but it is based in truth. In order to be a good counterfeit it has to look like the genuine. Have you ever heard that before? This is another component, the crux actually, but there is still more. It does, but if it is not through Christ, it is witchcraft.

There was a line that went "Whatever it takes to believe" that I guess was not known thruout this ministry/cult. The idea was that if you need to go to the doctor in order to believe, do so. When I quit smoking I used those Waterpic filters to cut down the drug. Somebody said to me, "Why don't you just believe God to quit?" Somebody else said, "He is. That's why he's using those filters. James 2:26 if the reference there.

You didn't understand what I was saying. Sometimes I speak in parables. Let me put it another way: Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one IN THE SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Looks like somebody didn't read the last part of Gal 6:1

False intelligence is no match for genuine stupidity

IMO Tony's pizza is a counterfeit.

LOL

I have found Kenyon to be rather balanced. The problem was that people would take him out of context. I believe that he also renounced Christian Science.

First, you have to know what's available.

IHOP would be very active worship (which I love). The casting out devils thing I expect would be much more gentile there and very private. It is my understanding that they believe in inner healing which is something that you may be interested in. Basically it is casting out devils, but it is done in a very different way. A lot of the devils that are cast out were never there in the first place. Inner healing is more of a search and destroy mission. It's kind of like counseling, but it is more like talking about deep issues with a good friend.

Oh comm'on, what does pizza taste like and how do you know it's pizza? Yes, there are counterfeits, and I can tell the difference, but how do I explain it to you? It's something that you have to experience.

My lame attempt at hummer.

If everybody feels it at the same time, it's probably spiritual. One time I delivered a pizza to a Pentecostal church. I felt the presence of the Lord as I walked in the door, and it was not emotion. All I had on my mind was delivering a pizza. I was actually surprised by it, because I don't agree with their theology.

I remember that one. I don't think you should tell it here.

So, this guy walks into a bar and says, "Ouch."

I'd heard that the Polish Pope's first miracle was to make a blind man lame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMi5TUJDso&NR=1

What kind of things did people get kicked out or marked and avoided for?

Seth is my friend. I like to think the best for him. Until the med reports are back, I'd rather not jump to conclusions.

It was definitely in PFAL. What I'm asking is where did vpw get it? I can't find it in the Bible.

OK, that's what I call believing. Suppose, though, one of your children were rebellious. Would you not withhold some blessing or even prescribe some disciplinary action? Where did that needs and wants parallel thing come from? I remember trying to do a teaching on that and couldn't find any Scripture to back it up.

My pastor and I were just talking about him on Saturday.

You may not like our church either. We have fun too. When the spirit moves, the atmosphere of the room changes. I don't call that praying in the spirit, though. The spirit is always there. It could be an angelic presence or maybe it is what the OT called the glory of the Lord.

OK, so it looks like nobody wants to discuss this. How about if I approached it from a different angel? Lets say for the sake of argument that believing is a law just as twi taught it. Now, lets say you were believing for such-n-such, but you had a WOW Coordinator, a Limb Leader, a Branch Leader and 45 other people saying that you are a dork, and couldn't believe for tying your own shoes. Now you have failed in what you believed for. Whose fault is it?

This is something that my instructer could do when I studied Aikido.