markomalley

Funny. What worked with mine was when we were at a resort in So. Italy for about a month during the summer when mine was a little over 3 years old. My little one had been in regular underwear during the day for months, but we still had to use the pull ups during the night or would deal with a wet mattress. Well, we brought a package of the pullups with us, but ran out. The Italians didn't have pullups -- they only had pampers. So, we had to let her tough it out. She let go the first night. And that was that. She found she didn't like waking up with wet jams and wet sheets. The beauty of the situation was that she ruined the hotel's mattress, not ours. :D-->

Nope. California already had a law in place since 1970. The federal law you're talking about was signed in May of 2004 (":P-->ubl212.108" TARGET=_blank>UNBORN VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE ACT OF 2004," Public Law 108-212). So, Peterson could not have been tried under that federal law: First, a state court would not have jurisdiction to try a case using federal law (it would have to be tried in federal court). Secondly, it wouldn't be possible to try Peterson under a law passed after the fact (violation of ex post facto protections). Laci Peterson was murdered in (2002?). The law was passed last May. What I was talking about was that this is the first time I've heard about somebody being convicted using those fetus homicide laws. It will be interesting to hear if that verdict is allowed to stand or if the law is declared unconstitutional. Why? Because he was convicted of murder of his unborn child. I would think that a person would need to be a person (with human rights) in order to be murdered. Peterson could not have "murdered" a legal non-entity, which essentially is the legal status given a fetus. So, I would think that if that verdict stands and the law is not declared unconstitutional, it would provide some kind of a precedent that might be able to be used against womens' health clinics in the future, particularly those that perform late term abortions.

Interesting dimension to all of this...they found him guilty for murder of an unborn child. This might have some implications that the prosecution may not have realized.........

They are especially beautiful up in the Artic regions, like in Finland. I saw them when I was up in Greenland a little over 20 years ago. It was an absolutely stunning sight.

Figures...the guy was from the District of Columbia Air National Guard. Around here, we all realize that the DC government has a hard time doing even simple tasks. Didn't realize it extended to their Guard, too.

OK. I can buy that. Thanks for the info.

Would you all who support removal of the ten commandments from public display have a different opinion if they were on display with other sources of law? (such as the magna carta, constitution, scales (representing justice), etc...in other words, acknowledging a historical connection between the ten commandments, along with other precursors, in forming the modern body of law? I'm just curious if the argument is with their excultation or even their presence in/ on a public builidng at all? Thanks.

In Alexa's methodology statement, above, they say that they get their numbers based upon traffic data from Alexa toolbar users. That is about as close a definition of spyware as I can find.

Pat, thank you. But I still believe you are misinterpreting what you've read. The traffic rank for www.greasespotcafe.com is 2,730,191 (3 mos avg). The reach per million users is .05. Source: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...asespotcafe.com The traffic rank for www.theway.org is 843,550 (3 mos avg). The reach per million is .45. Source: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...=www.theway.org The traffic rank for www.excultworld.com is 5,415,972 (3 mos avg). The reach per million is "--" (unmeasurable). http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...xcultworld.com/ So, yes, we are talking rank, not the number of hits. I am sure that Pawtucket could verify that there are not 2,730,191 (or 2,827,286) visits here in 3 months. According to Alexa, So, the ranks and numbers are based upon people that have the Alexa toolbar installed on their web browser. (This means that the Alexa toolbar is a piece of spyware, as it reports your web usage to a third party database for compilation) I would wager that there are probably about 100 users a day who access IP address: 63.251.4.135 gscafe.com (the infopop forums). And, unless these people navigate to the forums through the web site, there are probably far fewer who access the IP address: 207.217.96.34 www.greasespotcafe.com (the website). Maybe a few more, maybe a few less. Now, out of those users, how many have the Alexa toolbar installed on their web browser? (Hopefully most of us are smarter than to intentionally install a piece of spyware). Now, how many people access www.theway.org? I have no idea (nor do I really care). But I would wager that probably a higher percentage of them have the Alexa toolbar installed on their web browser than GSers. (Something about mind-numbed robots vice people who have started again to think for themselves) Oh, and Pat, it doesn't matter to me that much. When I saw your initial post that implied that any one of those sites had over 2,000,000 visitors in the period of three months, then I had to investigate. Take it easy.

Sorry to burst anybody's bubble, but with a web site ranking, the lower the number, the higher the rank, i.e., a ranking of 1 is better than a ranking of 1,000,000. I fully agree with the content issues mentioned by the others...

Well, here is another one on the same subject (sorry that it is from the Washington Times rather than the Post, but I don't think it is overly political): http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040721-101403-1508r.htmThis is a major topic right now on our local (Washington DC) talk radio station. Had a pilot for a "major airline" on as a guest and he provided confirmation that these things are happening more and more in recent months. (FWIW)

Galen: thanks for the offer. I think we are going to be north of there, but we're getting the last of our propaganda in now -- will probably be doing our actual trip planning next week. I think the game plan is going to be for us to go almost as far north as Troy NY or even Plattsburgh and then cut east from there. Having said that, if we do our return trip along the coast (yucch, means driving through NYC), then we might take you up on the sub tour -- Appreciate it!!!

All I can say is it was too much (although it didn't seem like that at the time).

Heading for New England (ME, VT, NH, MA - maybe) in a couple of weeks. Any suggestions for non-typical or non-tourist infested places to visit that would be worthwhile? Thanks in advance

Dot... (can't think of good words right now) ... Mark

Pity you wouldn't have posted this about 3 months ago. I was in St Louis for a couple of days and would have enjoyed the swordfight. But...oh well... You know what...we have a doctrinal section to discuss these types of issues. Sometimes the conversations get pretty good. Why don't you try it?

I want to apologize. I thought that it was perfectly obvious that this was a spoof. I thought the :o--> would guarantee that folks would recognize this. Again, my apologies for any confusion to anybody who may have thought this was an authentic "warning."

I got this e-mail recently and thought I should share it with you: :o-->

Sorry, forgot the wink ;)-->

Somehow, I know deep in my heart that this is Bush's fault. I'm not sure how, but I know there is a connection: http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2004/0...1326986806.html

I wasn't implying that you did...However, I clearly remember VPW doing so. This was part of his "pseudo-science" that sucked me right in because of my ignorance of documents, such as those.

dmiller-- A couple a things to think about: Ignatius of Antioch died sometime between 98 and 117 AD http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-...tm#P3038_494445 Justin Martyr died in 165 http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-01/anf01-...tm#P4582_965035 There are others identified as "Church Fathers" whom I could quote. But, my purpose is not to convince you of the Trinity, but, rather simply to let you know that there was a lot of "triune" thought out there prior to Nicea, contrary to what VPW taught. Wierwille taught that Arian thought was the norm until Constantine converted and made Christianity legal in the Roman Empire -- where it got mixed up with Roman pagan religion. He was wrong, as I just showed you. (Provided the Calvin College "Christian Classics Ethereal Library" is not intentionally publishing forgeries). How many other places has VPW lied in his doctrine???

One man's cult is another man's mainstream. dmiller: I always felt about Baptists the way you feel about Catholics, so I appreciate your sentiments. But, if you ask a devout humanist, anybody who believes in a god has his brains filled with jell-o. How about if we live and let live.

I normally have heard it chanted, although I imagine that there is some modern music composed to it (probably ruins it). Here is a link to an MP3 of the chant. Although beautiful in of itself, seeing it done as part of the opening rite in the Easter Vigil never stops chills from running down my spine.

An ancient song of praise and welcoming the resurrection. It dates from before 350 AD: A scroll containing the Exultet circa 7th C Happy Easter everybody!