markomalley

I sort of like the Devil's Island kind of concept, like in the movie Papillon. Don't we still own some island in the S. Pacific that is uninhabited and 1,000 miles from nowhere? I think we do...a whole chain...called the Bikini Islands... We could land the prisoners on the island, airdrop food and water to them, and leave them to their own devices... Naturally, only those convicted on a life sentence (w/o parole) and those who have graduated to 3-strikes-you're-out status.

Yeppers, Mark. Happens all the time. Allow me to rephrase this...Is Scott going to be in a position to continue to murder innocent people (non-convicted felon types) from inside San Quentin? (Although frankly, I think he is far more likely to be somebody's girlfriend until he dies from a hemmorage from a certain orifice normally used for another purpose)

Here's another perspective on Euthanasia from Great Britain:

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I sure am glad you're not my judge. I don't think that I could meet your standards.

Two questions: 1. Are Lacy and Connor going to be any less dead when Scott is executed? 2. Is Scott going to be in a position to continue to murder from inside San Quentin? And a corrollary question: a. Is Scott in less danger from within a solitary confinement death row cell or within the general prison population (in a maximum security setup)? (by danger I mean not only from death/ maiming/ serious, repeated injury, but also from becoming fill in the blank with your favorite prisoner's name girlfriend)

I certainly hope that VPW repented of his sins before he died and that LCM does so before he dies. I don't wish hell upon anybody, no matter how much they may deserve it.

TWI cost me my first wife. And it cost me a total of about 15 years of my life (a short time compared to some, I realize). I've known people jailed for their beliefs (Christians living in Muslim countries). I've known of people killed for their beliefs. The word cost me nothing.

Likewise, I thought I was providing a responsive answer, not an insulting one. I'll shut up now.

FWIW, homeopathy is practiced widely in Germany -- has been for years. I remember getting some good results for some allergies I had to some local plants through homeopathic medicines I was prescribed when over there. I think like all things, there is a place for it. It would be nice if the various healing arts would be able to get together and try to work collaboratively to find what is best for each patient.

Nothing like good, wholesome family entertainment, Ex. I stand corrected. ;)-->

Gift cards! Pre-loaded Visa debit cards or Amex debit cards. I have seen far too many presents in my life that go unused. If you don't KNOW what the other party wants or needs (not your guess, not what he asks for, but what he really wants or needs), then a pre-loaded debit card is the best bet -- they can go get something they really want or really need!

Personally, the only daytime talk shows I consider worth watching are Jerry Springer, Jenny Jones, and Ricki. At least you know not to take those shows seriously. Face it, most everybody likes a circus now and again. (The only problem is if you see a family member in one of the guests! LOL!) Shows like Oprah and her spinoff, Dr. Phil, take themselves far too seriously. As do too many of their viewers!

In DC, they contracted with a private firm to run the speeding cameras and the red light cameras. They collected a bounty for their efforts. There were widespread abuses reported from their efforts -- cameras set incorrectly, judges not wanting to hear it (I remember one morning last week, there was a police vehicle that was trying to get through a red light where all the lanes were already taken -- nobody would move for him, even though he had lights and sirens. Why? Because there was a camera at that light...had they given the cop the right of way, they would have gotten nailed by the camera. So, nobody moved) The following article shows how the IRS, with G. Bush's full endorsement, is looking to use the same technique to collect taxes: Now we have a replication of the SA from the old Germany. They used to go out and collect revenues for the party. Now we have debt collectors. This is really slick, folks.....

I lurked at Waydale during its existence. Then, a few months later, Waydale had closed its doors and pointed me toward GSC. I registered there. I had been "out" for years when I first ran into either site. But, like others, I still clung to a lot of the doctrine...thinking that Martindale had screwed TWI up...this place really opened up my eyes to show how messed up TWI was from the beginning.........

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Gartmore House Conference Centre It looks like it is being used for some good now. (If I remember, this came up a few months ago)

You are correct. How funni history does not repeat itself anymore. and which WW was the end of all wars? Oh, I am not saying for a second that the SOBs wouldn't implement a draft in a flash if they a) thought it necessary b) thought it would do more good than harm and c) thought that it could have a positive impact in time to respond to the particular crisis of the day; the point I was getting at in my above posts was that implementing a draft is a systematic, strategic move (takes a long time to start and a long time to stop) that has a whole lot of other things have to go in place for a draft to be applied. When I see GM cutting production on cars so that they can make HMMWV's, then I'll be concerned about a draft. Until then, I will be a skeptic.You know, its sort of funny if you think about it. All of these progressives and socialists out there (not just here on GSC, but in general), yet, the only strategic actions that have been taken to make a draft happen were done by the most progressive of politicians. The draft started prior to WWII (a little better than a year before) by FDR. Selective Service registration started under Carter: "The registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan." And the bill to introduce the draft was introduced by Rangel. So they created the system and then whine about the system that they created. And then conveniently forget the system's history and ascribe it to others. If it wasn't so pitiful how "followers of the (progressive) way" allow themselves to be duped, it would be funny. As to your war to end all wars question, it was World War I. And, had we minded our own business during that conflict, it is likely that many of the problems we are dealing with today would never have come about. The French and the British would not have been in a position to arbitrarily draw national borders with a straightedge on a map, defining the existence of most mideastern countries, Germany likely would still have been under imperial rule (no matter how bad Kaiser Wilhelm was, he was a piker compared to what came into power in 1932), etc., etc., etc. Oh, btw, how in the world did this thread get started in "Open" rather than "Politacks," anyway?

A scientific proof for the existence of hell: The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well. Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following: First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different Religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added. This gives two possibilities: 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, "it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you, and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number 2 must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct ... leaving only Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God." This student received the only "A" given.

Daryl, I agree with you on the Iraq affair. Despite the evident potential to seriously alter the balance of power in the area, it has been so profoundly mismanaged, I have serious doubts that any good can be resurrected out of it. Having said that, I actually see some positive trends to since Arafat's death. To the best that I can see, there have been no suicide bombings since his death on Nov 11th. The last bombing I was able to find was on Nov 1st in a Tel Aviv market. The turnover of the Gaza strip, delayed for a long period, appear to be back on track. So there are apparently some positive signs. Not enough for me to become actually optimistic on the issue, but, it is good to see some non-bad news every once in a while. As to the draft (I don't mean to perpetuate a complete derail), no matter how bad the quagmire, you need to consider the following; - where are the training facilities to handle the influx of troops? - where is the equipment that these troops are going to be issued and operate? - Although an MOS 11B grunt infantryman can be given rudimentary training in about 6 months, the other MOS' that are needed to provide support to the 11B's take over a year to get fully up to speed. - Has congress authorized a force structure increase to provide the units within which these people are going to operate? - Where, exactly, are the seasoned NCOs that will lead the conscript troops going to come from (don't say "Stop-Loss," "Stop-Loss" just allows existing units to maintain). Although corporals can be built in a couple of years, Staff Sergeants, Sergeants First Class, and Sergeants Major take considerably longer. The army of today cannot function without well seasoned NCOs. Those who are forwarding the canard (deception) that a draft is imminent need to look at these other signs. If you see that those other signs (increase in force structure, major increases in equipment procurement to fill the TA for those units, etc.) are being acted on in Congress, then you might have cause for concern. Until that time, the chances of a draft happening are slim to none. (Oh, btw, this is from a 21 year E-7 with the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (3 campaign stars), the NATO Medal (Former Yugoslavia) and the NATO Medal (Kosovo))

Actually, Trefor, the UCC denomination was formed in the US, as a result of a merger between the Congregational Church and Evangelical and Reformed Church denominations. You can read about it in this Wikipedia writeup. Yes, folks, the denomination that created this advert has its roots in the same theology that created such theological luminaries such as VPW (does that make them sort of connected to TWI?) --> Having said that, fundamental tenents of their theology include inclusiveness and progressiveness. (So, if some of you are looking for a church, this might be someplace to consider) And that is a shame, Trefor. Even if a church disapproves of a particular behavior pattern, they ought to welcome everybody to at least come in and learn.

_You seem so sure of this Steve!? ever heard of Viet Fkn Nam? of course you have. I am glad you said ... "It ain't gonna happen." Rather than saying ..."It ain't gonna NEVER HAPPEN!" You cover your *** well!_ Look up 108th Congress, HR 163. The bill was introduced on 1/7/2003 by Charles Rangel (D-NY). It had 14 co-sponsors: Rep Abercrombie, Neil [D-HI] Rep Brown, Corrine [D=FL] Rep Christensen, Donna M. [D-VI] Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [D-MO] Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [D-MI] Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [D-MD] Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [D-FL] Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [D-IL] Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [D-TX] Rep Lewis, John [D-GA] Rep McDermott, Jim [D-WA] Rep Moran, James P. [D-VA] Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [D-CA] Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [D-NY] Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [D-DC] (withdrawn - 6/21/2004) It was defeated on 10/5/2004 in roll call vote 494. There were 2 votes in favor and 402 votes opposed. Just as a matter of interest, Rep. Murtha and Rep. Stark ( a co-sponsor) were the yea votes. Rep. Brown did not vote. The remainder of the sponsors (including Rangel, who sponsored the bill), voted against the bill. Hmmmm, imagine that...the sponsor of the bill voting against it. So, unless it gets re-introduced in the 109th Congress, it ain't gonna happen. Oh, and btw, one other thing...the previous draft started during WWII and ended after Vietnam. So, Vietnam did not start the draft.

I appreciate you doing this, but if I can suggest, in the future, please replace the partially obscured names with "A" "B" "C" "D" or whatever in order to keep the names straight. Because now it is impossible to tell who is doing what to whom (I agree the names are not terribly relevent, but it is important to keep each person separated). Also, one other thing, fyi, in this case, the names come from court records and news stories, both of which are already in the public domain.

Ya know, Hairy, I guess your last one can be considered humour...using the most liberal definition possible. ;)-->

Excie, check your PT's

Thank you for that info. As I said in my original post, "Second, the expenses for xxxxxx (the biological mother) were paid for. Again, I don't have an issue with that (although, apparently, that is against NC law). This is no personal case against the xxxxxxxxx or xxxxxx and xxxx; I have no indication that they did anything other than what they believed was the best." And, also, thank you for clearing up that no additional moneys were exchanged. Frankly, the biggest thing that concerned me with this was, as I also indicated in my original post: Regardless of the xxxxxxxxs' motivations, some funkiness apparently happened to convince xxxxxx to give up her child. Not, by any means, their fault, but it still happened.