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You could always put out a better "spread" for them. Then maybe they'd go over to the neighbor's for "dessert"..

"How long will it be before you can clean the house for me again???!!!!" This was actually said.. what suffering, what pain.. damn sycophant would actually have to clean their own house..

Not where I went to twig.. I knew one person who had a broken bone, and it was taking longer to heal than the branch person thought it should. Said person was REAMED for it.. forget that it happened to be the one bone in the body that had the least blood flow by it.. for some people it is a miracle if it is even healed to begin with.. dignity? respect? Naw.. they just need somebody to clean the house for them.. just "believe".. these people in Hebrews are afforded more respect than it they went to "twig" today.. a guy who couldn't "believe" sufficiently, as to not have to get up in a meeting, and go to the bathroom.. kicked out. Respect? Dignity? What about some who died? At least one I remember, was a fully-functioning, mature, ADULT. "well, the parents. they didn't believe, stand with da "household".. that's what did it.." Pretty vile, in my opinion.

Maybe that's why people come here.. one of the few places on the planet that some people can understand a person. I told my friend here about the parking lot illustration. She laughed.. for a long long time.. "you REALLY gagued your spirituality by where you parked the car????" "Well, not me.. but I knew quite a few that did.." One or two happened to be in the car with me. One said: "Whadya parking way back HERE for??!! You expect me to WALK? WHERE IS YOUR BELIEVING??!!!" NOO joke. Now it IS a joke. We pull in the third row, I say "well, I guess we're bronze today.."

hmm. These people were afforded quite a bit more respect and dignity than they would have been in "twig".. "whadya mean you were tortured, mocked? Where's your believing? "

Probably the guy five houses down the block, who is cursing the name of the moron who's feeding them, allowing them to breed well beyond their normal proportions.

The thing I dispute is that God would demand of his own CHILDREN to somehow in the heat of the moment, to get the "details" right, rub the magic lamp in a precise manner, before doling out things in life that can be described as mere basic needs.. A physical father does not wait for a child to beg, pray, "believe", before considering handing him a little breakfast. Or clothing him or her.. Neither does he buy the child a shetland pony, a 1/5th size toy train to play with, or one hundred pounds of gold bullion, even if he indeed does get the "formula" right..

The deer are the worst here though, as far as garden destrucion is concerned. The people in the county had a "marvelous" idea about ten or so years ago.. construct massive cage traps, and relocate the deer five counties north..

Hmm. Ever find "anything" left, a tail, or something? sometimes that happens when they lay across the terminals of older transformers. Of course the transformer is a little more costly to replace than a fuse..

well.. that's an idea! But the main point of the poll is to give a rating to various squirrel experience, in terms of their evil or lack therof. Maybe I'll do anoither one, "rate their entertainment value" remember, more than one choice is allowed with your vote. Some poor soul may have had experiences three through five..

Well, can't change it without messing a few things up.. put that under number two

I feed the little rascals. My lady friend here says they are evil. Says I have lived a sheltered life, and have not experienced first hand the evil destructive power of the Squirrel. Of course, if they removed the air cleaner and stuffed acorns down the car's carberator, I might be a little upset too. But I have an "agreement" with the squirrels in this particular neigborhood. I feed them sufficient nuts and seed, and they leave us alone. Of course, the squirrels do not have the same agreement with the other neighbors.. OH yes, you may choose more than one option in this poll.

Something else to read if you have time to waste.. You could read the same kind of stuff for HOURS, if you have that much time to waste..

That exhortation alone makes me doubt whether the person really is rosie.. be tender, and loving??? Naw... the only "tender" thing about rosie is probably the "legal" she spends, and perhaps her toilet paper..

I think this is the key disclaimer, if his "prophecy" does not come true. He can always go back to the drawing board, and come up with a whole other set of calculations..

hey, don't leave in such a hurry.. reasonable observation.

Yeah. Sometimes, I've noticed if people denounce him publically, as in a forum as this, some people think the person is just spilling poison, but what is unclean is just plain unclean. There are those who just can't see it, despite first hand testimony from those who were plundered, deceived, and worse. When people have glowing words, a plastic grin, and call the guy "The Teacher".. it really does give me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. A true lamb of God doesn't eat the flock.

I don't discount the merits of prayer, and believing as such, but I still think we were taught to boldly claim we were in New York when we were actually in Chicago. I think psychiatrists have a name for people who do this on a continual basis. Especially if it doesn't produce results..

I think part of the human problem was man trying to define God's "end of the deal", practically to the extent that we thought he was some kind of Santa Claus machine. ANYTHING you want, anytime.. if "whatsoever" really means "whatsoever", in an all inclusive sense. Find a bible verse to justify asking for the front parking spot in front of the store.. Well. I want a dog, a cat, a pony.. gimme a Harley, a few hundred pounds of gold bullion.. and any one of those requests could be at least partially justified with some verse somewhere.. I think if that's how things really worked, the world would be even more of a nightmare. So many requests ought not to be even asked in prayer.

then again, there were a heck of a lot of things that weren't legal in Texas.. If it makes any difference, no I don't smoke. Anything. I just tend to agree with this. I think a "war" indiscriminately held against such a broad spectrum of substances not to be very logical. A logical approach would address the worst problems first. I think the main difference between marijuana and alcolohol.. alcohol has more than a few lobbyests..

I'll say the same thing I said to another poster.. I don't know if you've noticed, but the whole stinking world is on fire. Some of us here have found our real calling in life.. no, I don't try to be superman anymore.. I'm past that kind of delusion.. but some of us "little people" could really use some help. If you can do ANYTHING.. I have a couple of fires that could be put out.. :) So far, religious knuckle heads haven't been able to do a whole heck of a lot.. other than "I love you".. i.e. be warmed, be filled, but I've been sent away rather empty.. I would LOVE to be proved wrong..

I'd like to know the specifics too. But I don't know how much it would add substantially to the mix though at least for me. I think we were following a madman. "Crazies" can be very charming, intelligent.. even good public speakers. They might even get a few things right. reminds me of the thread about "Dr." Bronners' soap. I did get a reply to my email, he was a self-proclaimed doctor. But he really knew his soap..

I wonder if he ever figured out what rosie, donna and gang really did to him.. vic was ready to take a pretty big fall in his denomination as well. If I remember correctly, there were allegations of womanizing.. plus the embarassment of his actions regarding the mission work in India Plus who knows what else. Where would he go? Perhaps the only difference between loy and "dad".. vic simply broke off, started his own brand, and his self esteem, not to mention self agrandizment, remained intact. I wonder what he really was praying about, "I'm ready to quit.. unelss I get something I DON'T HAVE TO BACK DOWN on.." Then comes the "voice of Gawd.." They didn't have the kind of meds that loy had access to, back in those days.. might be a lot of surmising.. but it would not be the first time in history a few thousand people followed a madman..

maybe twenty years ago. Now it's a botox smile. They don't have to 'renew the mind" so much, and can concentrate on more important things, like the dance steps..

Sometimes, with the right kind of religious "hooey", it is easier to blame yourself for another person's stupidity..