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hmmm. Three of you say you were attacked by the crazy squirrel. Can't be, I only know two of you here that I bit..

He was supposed to be a father figure.. he even showed that to be an illusion. A real father doesn't do this with a daughter.. it puts a blot on him he can't wash off.. what a stained, half an excuse of a man..

Kinda like saying, "well, Capone was a killer, a gangster, but don't dare call him a common thug.." so much mincing about which label to hang on the mogster.. In either case.. call it what you will.. what "daddy" did was rather despicible.. what a monster.

I dunno. Gathering people into a gang around some little part or parcel of truth.. pretty miserable existence. Then you have to defend your "truth"'s honor, against all the other little parts and parcels in the world.. Claim you have a "bigger" piece of the pie.. does it really give some people that good of a feeling? it's like a damn drug.. the first pinprick is probably pretty awful..sacrifice your own logic and standards.. after a few times, "so what".. "just a little sexual indescretion. He's just a man.. after all I FEEL so GOOD.." Some of us don't need cult recovery, I think we need rehab..

He was supposed to BE a father figure.. what did "daddy" do? Pretty disgusting.. no matter how you look at it..

If der vey ever loses it's cold grip on the property, the new owners could make a fortune.. just dig up the fountain site.. Can't start a REAL offshoot without a few "holy" relics.. "your Majesty. Here! An authentic finger of St. vic the "divine".." sheesh.

Now if they put up a shrine in his honor, you might be able to say that of the whole organization..

actually, I'm sad that they don't know any better..

fleeting shadows a a few great(?) names..

I dunno.. I think "the truth" is about as fragmented in the world as our collective consciousness is..

I met an exwayer that found he fit very very well in with a couple of local civic organizations. But he always second guessed his motives, how much "real" good it was doing, the profit.. I think he still held some of loy's dislike of those kinds of places. Is it the right thing to do? Is it less than spiritual, or godly? One of the very few times I would actually offer advice.. Don't think what you are passionate about, what gives common ground, or what brings joy, or light, to not be spriritual or godly. I've seen others find their calling, and go back to "just" teaching the bible.. Very sad..

I avoid Walmart like the plague.. I think it is so large, there is a black hole in the middle of it, sucking in customers, money, carts, kids, pets.. kinda like the famed roach motel. They check in, but they don't check out..

Hmm. If he did hit oil, I wonder if we would have red white and blue upside McDonald's arches at all of the gas stations from sea to shining sea..

It was no myth Johnny. I actually remember him saying it, just a little sketchy on all of the details. But I remember the arches.. that may have been it.. he claimed it was "revealed" to him, and der debil punished him for it by turning W's upside down from coast to coast..

I vividly remember him describing the arch, how Krok got ahold of it, turned it upside down.. Just another one of the surreal days in der vey.. Hmm. It could be.. in his wildest dreams, he really WANTED W's littering the landscape.. "in the harvest time of life, leave a few W's standing.."

I remember this. Or at least I think I do.. In front of a live(?) audience, the vicster claimed that the McDonalds fast foot chain concept was originally his own idea. That if he implemented it, that he'd be rich. Further claimed, the Kroc stole his idea, took the first letter of vic's last name, and turned it upside down and planted it in the ground, thus making the now famous Mc"D's golden arch.. Anybody else remember this? Or were the drugs really that good back in the good old days?

closely followed by the Church of orthopedic support shoes..

and the vicster decreed, "upside down arches shall litter the landscape, from sea to shining sea.."

No I didn't lose a child. But a close set of friends did, who had a child with the very same disease. They were "believers" as well as I. I couldn't say at that they didn't "believe".. they prayed, did mostly the same things I did.. so I've seen life, and death, in the same kind of situation. Am I thankful my child survived? Yeah. But can I boast of the deliverance, and victory? There are those who took the same action as I that cannot.

Hey.. the Cabernet isn't too bad.. :)

Sorry Johnny... it just brings up a few memories.. :)

I ask humbly, have you ever been in that position? I have.. I've found myself praying that a damn sickness would not claim my chilld's beauty.. let alone life..

Oh yeah.. I guess that makes it true that every woman in the kindgom belongs to da king (everything else, for that matter..) I guess loy wasn't such a bad guy.. just taking what was "his".. I could see him in front of the judge.. no matter how many tranquilizers and anti-depressants.. "Gee Judge.. da BIBLE said I could.." no wonder they settled..

For the record, loy admitted it, rosie admitted under oath that she knew of his "preclivities" of demanding sex from PAID (?) EMPLOYEES. When one husband started making noise.. no turning back for der bot.. it was a mark and avoid sentence.. all this is a matter of record. The judge in the case ruled that the case deserved jury trial.. that there was substantial evidence of not just abuse, but a PATTERN of it.. I bet the settlement cost them dearly..

I dunno.. toward the end, it was more like we were paying them for "protection"..