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hmmm maybe this is what you are talking about allan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_of_B...u'll%C3%A1h

nevermind.... you can start the thread allan

You know I never really saw that in the bible. I do see a lot that says different though. Maybe I'll start a thread on it. The coming of the greater.... hmmmm....was there a lesser?

Danny I've seen it happen once on a twig level. Don't know the details cause the guy was taken to a back room afterwards.

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn15/otnt.htm

http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/misc/quotes.html

How do ya figure that? I won't speak for Paul but, For me, it has a bunch of good stuff in it. A lot of new light.

yeah all I use is the computer bibles anymore. I figured whatever sticks that is good ain't goin anywhere anyway. Shoot all that study study study, drive a person nuts. Either God loves and is with me or not. Counting all things dung is loving God more then our selves. Which means we get that back too, loving ourselves. Much grace and peace and love to you and yours Abigail, Clay

once you ever get back into it exc turn off system restore in the system tools that virus is backed up into system restore and a reformat is not a bad idea if you have all the disks and you don't need to save anything

Could it be possible that speaking in toungues has a radical (radical as in different then considered) meaning and aspect, major aspect of Son's of God speaking. And not that they do it some times but in the language of the hearers yet spiritual and heard and understood spiritually? Is it not spiritual? is it not the spirit speaking? Acts 2 really comes to mind. Doesn't the secrets once revealed belong to us and our children forever?

well...i don't know allan, what did Paul say about his religous training and learning? Did heeven label it religous training and learning? What was it he called dung? 6Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 7But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. 8Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. 12Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. hmmmm....don't see religous learning and training specifyed.....as dung

Question- Can the toungues of angels be understood? Or recognized?

Yes and from the heart, for real. And it's not really work if it is the heart. It's just how we are. For out of the heart shall flow these rivers of living water. Not understood in the carnal but in the spirit. Where Christ who is our life is.

.If you don't mind me asking, what effort would that be that we make?

Interesting perception.What does that really mean? And what work could man do to attain this renewed mind? The work of men or the work of God?

So many wise and yet knowing the truth. There is one God, the rest are fiction, being only because they are worshippped. "You shall have no other gods before Me," Jeremiah 16:19-21 (King James Version) 19O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. 20Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? 21Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. 1 John 5 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

And I think the less self centered we are the more we see our selves and others. To leave what we hold so dear and love without thought of ourselves. And to hear those angels in others.....and see them.... Quite possibly a lot more things then a few that work all things together to those who love God and leave what they hold so dear and love without thought of themselves releases the toungues of angels.

Very enlightening Danny, I run with a few who think very similar. But to put it in these words helps tremendously.

everything in msconfig needs to be loaded for the programs to see there junk sometimes. Just check normal start then boot into safe mode if you can't regular. Then run your programs. I still highly suggest this. If you haven't tryed it yet. http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/You_Must_Re..._Log-t2852.html It will take some time depending on the speed of your computer. If it don't work then register and post the problem. It may take a few days to get someone on it but just post once, they will see it and get to you as soon as possible. It's a very busy forum. Just post your hijack log once and they will get to it. If you try bumping your thread up, it just annoys these geeks. But that's the way it is there cause it's so busy. And they do see it. Mine went to page 5 i think, but i got answers when they got to me.

Chas so really Jesus...our brother...didn't really do much persay as it is said by some...by many that he was the first coming.... at the time Mary gave birth to him, and not to deny, but affirm many await the second coming without the first and the first shall be last and last shall be first sort of..lol... kinda like a fine blend of coffee or being shot in the head with out the bullet hitting anything (don't anyone take that literal or morbid now, and no offense) it just rearranges the brain patterns and systems of thought an insane ride as Solomon even himself proclaimed he rode a rest to God's people? it's there...breath, breath, breath deeply and this Jesus of Nazareth, of Galilee, of the city of David looked this sorry foot spirit in the face, and spit in it, spitting out fire and in the fire cooking, roasting, till there was nothing, which is something in nothing is the colors, glass of clear water anyone? the eye of the needle the unwritten, unspoken truth so the coming of the Messiah? is it spirit or flesh? a thief in the night and seing it first hand in the spiritual or is it carnal?

Condescending attitudes and inflamatory words don't impress me any. Nor does biblical research. Though it has it's place. Toungues of angels do. You still have not answered the questions revvel. Which is fine with me. I didn't ask any that I didn't know the answer to. At least in part. It's obvious that you are not interested in other perspectives. Cause you keep trying to fit everything into this doctrinal wall. A wall of words that you are putting together. Been there, done that-not returning. So use the word return if you wish. It doesn't change what happens anyway. You have seen prophecys fulfilled. Yeah so, A lot of people claim this. Accusations as you put it...lol.... I ain't worried none about what you preach. It is a good example of how people think. And profitable to a certain degree.

not even one

And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy

Yes Roy, Unlocking the secrets of Genesis..... the heavens and earth within....

With no TV or internet not much to do but talk around the campfires!! I guess my screen could be considered a little campfire :)