oldiesman

Agree in part. Assuming that death is the natural end of one's existence, eternal nothingness cannot be unpleasant. But is it very bad? Well, I would say that to the believer it's very tragic and sad, if there's a whole world of souls living eternally with God while simultaneously there's a whole world that is not. But perhaps we may agree on one thing: that universal salvation (the belief that everyone will eventually be saved no matter what they believe and/or do) is not the truth?

Today: May 10, 2025 melt values are as follows: Gold: $3,323.30 per oz. Silver: $32.69 per oz. Some say this 100-1 ratio will not last and that silver is the best buy right now. Some are advocating trading your gold for silver right now. For example, one ounce of gold will get you 100 ounces of silver. But there are others who say that gold still is in upswing mode so wait a bit. I think that's more likely.

Agree. I think we'd have to try each one to understand each... and understanding only one may take up to a year or even more. I'm still trying to understand the traditional latin mass. One thing I do believe: each religion has some truth and biblical principle, and even atheism has some too, as in loving and kindness to your fellow man.

Agree. I've read some definitions of it and appears quite "spiritual" in the sense of doing good for your friends and neighbors as a duty.

Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to (softly) challenge them on belief(s) you hold that challenges their narrative. LOL...

VPW suggested that. VPW said of PFAL "try it.. if it works for you, you have an answer, if not, kick it." But like ALL other religions, TWI has and have inviolate positions and interpretations that make it difficult if not impossible to believe something contrary. Stray from the narrative and you will be out quicker than a fly on s.... They aren't open to change, LIKE ANY OTHER RELIGION. I personally experienced this in TWI through the tithing teaching when I questioned them up and down on it, they were unmovable, and ready to defend the VPW narrative to the end. I really and truly wish I can say they wanted us to read, study and interpret the bible for ourselves but my experience differs. And don't think for a minute that the Catholic Church doesn't do likewise. How long do you think I'd last there if I preach PFAL there? LOL x 2 ...

This has been my experience as well, the last few years attending mass. No legalism. No compulsion. Haven't heard a peep about "tithing", "abundant sharing".... although it's always "available" when folks come around. Nobody watches you to see if you're giving. Nobody cares.

I think we may be able to discuss him and his message if we keep it about biblical matters and not political. Biblical would be 'old covenant' vs. 'new covenant'. etc. etc. Admittedly, Baldwin does talk politics a lot during his sermons.. so it will have to be the moderator call to allow it or not. Whatever Raf decides is ok with me. Thx.

I do. And my rebound into Catholicism helps me to examine and critique my steps all the more.

Sorry to hear that... well, we know now there's abundant life outside of TWI. Thank you for posting and please continue!

Hi Lulu welcome to the Spot. Am curious.... Were you and your husband threatened to be terminated from the Corps if you didn't sell the house?

Yes JoyfulSoul, mainly oldies music but am also a fan of anything old old old. Like old records, old furniture, old coins... you get the picture... collectibles... I watch Pastor Baldwin love his biblical knowledge... don't immediately agree with everything he says, but try to understand his point of view. I do not watch/listen to Candace Owens, mainly because I watch others that take up most/all of my time. Hope you're having some fun here... keep on posting brother...

Hi JoyfulSoul! Thx for posting your recent experience and I look forward to your ROA '25 visit if you go. I have no idea how and what TWI does at present but always like to give a listen. Regarding your comment on Zionism etc... I'm with you. You may already know that Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Montana is probably one of the finest teachers on this topic and he's on YouTube. Looking forward to your future participation here...

Hi Joe, The following video has some interesting and unique perpectives on the gifts and particularly word of knowledge. It was held in Poughkeepsie about 6 years ago by a young lady who did a wonderful job explaining them, and from a catholic perspective no less. Her historical points were eye-opening to me. May you find the fullness of God's gift to help others, brother!