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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukbbPJirTaE

Well, my boss would frown on my showing up hung over, which I would surely be if I played that game.

"Oh baby give me one more chance" I can "hear" a young Michael Jackson singing that line but I don't know the title of the tune.

Oh, you do that, too?

I have to work in the morning!

I don't know. It seems as if we like to think the ancients had some sort of collectively profound thoughts. Now, here we are, thousands of years later. What sort of collectively profound thoughts do WE have to offer? I think we just assign a lot more importance to this stuff than it really deserves.

Well, I'm just glad constellations don't always look like their namesakes.

Nah. The Greater Wanker and The Lesser Wanker are constellations. Did you mean to post this on the Witness of the Stars thread?

That's the kind of thing I had hoped for. Something academic, not homiletic. Instead, we got lessons in the proper soaking of wheat berries and a scream-fest every Wednesday (or was it Thursday?) evening at fellow laborer night. Constant reminders of how totally worthless and incompetent we were. Yeah, that helped a lot. One of the things we were taught was that you can have "joy" regardless of your circumstances. Now,that's not a totally bad thing. It is bad, though, when you use it to rationalize a situation you should be trying to correct, not forebear. If you convince yourself you're happy, no matter what the circumstances, what initiative will you ever have to seek improvements? One day they teach you.... Good, Better, Best Never let it rest Until your good is better And your better best The next day they teach you.... You should find joy in a job shoveling horse poop. :wacko:

Yes, there was one such LC that I recall. (For us peons, there was no alcohol, either.)

I know what you mean. Take, for example, the picture of Ursa Major that I posted. It looks nothing like a bear. I think they should have named it Squirrel-ious Huge-ious.

---ma laka see tay, y'all

Fellow Laborers of Ohio was supposed to be focused on doing a two year, in-depth study of Acts and then returning to our hometowns as better equipped leaders. Instead, we lived in, what was, essentially, a commune..... not the flower power, free drugs and sex kind you see in movies and the like. (In fact, drugs and sex outside of marriage were forbidden) There was very little academic study at all. We spent most of our time tending the garden, repairing the grounds and buildings, maintaining the food co-op and keeping our living quarters clean and organized. The blatant lack of any real academic pursuit was, by far, the most disappointing aspect of the program. And, yet, I see people on-line, gushing about the great "spiritual truths" they learned by pulling weeds and such. Were there any valuable lessons to be learned from the experience? Sure, you can learn at least "something" from virtually any experience in life. But, was there any academic value in the teachings? I would have to answer with a resounding "NO".

It's really no one's business why you stayed. What he did was wrong . It would still be wrong, even if you had left immediately. Focusing on how much longer you stayed is simply a way of trying to take the guilt off VPW and put it on you. You see this kind of thinking in rape cases......."It's your fault for wearing that red dress, it's your fault for walking down that particular street. it's your fault for appearing vulnerable..........." That's a load of crap. It's VPW's fault that he did what he did, not yours. Period. Can you imagine a guy getting arrested for robbing a bank and trying to use this kind of reasoning to defend his actions?...."Yes, your honor, I robbed the bank, but, it was really their fault, not mine, because they had a substandard security system."

Absolutely!

One thing I'm pretty sure of. If you still believe that saying "Lo Shanta" guarantees you a first class ticket to Shambala, you may want to revise your flight plans.

Well, I'll be. Just when you think you've seen every contradiction in PFAL. In one place he says that a born-again believer can't get possessed. But here the implication is that they can. -------------------------------------------------------- "The speaking in tongues is real," he said, (indicating they were born-again because, supposedly, that's the only way it could be "real") "but the handling of snakes is devilish." (indicating they were possessed by devil spirits---according to page 14 of the advanced class syllabus, which talks about snake charmers being possessed)

Hey!! This doesn't look like Adolph's Tavern!!!

But, then again, he seemed to be stuck on those same two or three phrases, didn't he? Can you be just a little bit born again? You know. Like being just a little bit pregnant?

Well, he did have that Lo Shanta thing going on. And, he said ,himself, that the Lo Shanta thing was proof. Of course, that's one of those circular reasoning kind of things. ....ma laka see tay.....

Yep. That's right. That's where it stood before I drifted off on my journey to some distant planet.

If that's what it's really about, I'm not so sure I want any part of it. Of course, that would also change my "not sure" into a "yes" in reference to VPW.

I'm not sure anymore exactly what "born again" really means. Maybe it's some kind of figurative expression. I don't know. One thing I do know; his life surely didn't represent an ability to start afresh. He just continued on in his same old devious and perverted ways until the Drambuie ran out. So, in that sense, he was never "born again".

Yeah. VPW was the original "hybrid" He sure got a lot of mileage out of that "vehicle" he created.