LornaDoone

Lol Lorna, it isn`t gossip....

Fact: Rosie had "two high profile lesbians" (UNLESS YOU SAW IT IT IS STILL A RUMOR)

sharing a room in the basement of her home for years....they have since left twi together I guess....(SEE WHAT I MEAN, YOU GUESS).

Rumor: SEVERAL posters have posted independantly that they have personal knowledge of Donna being *challenged* in this area... YEAH HE SAID SHE SAID, STILL GOSSIP.

Why do all of the women that rosie surrounds herself with have challenges in this area? Makes you go Hmmmmmm, AND WHO SAID THEY DO?

I for one think that it is poetic justice.....hysterically funny actually......that the male dominated female 2nd class citizen ministry ends up in the hands of not just women...but devil posessed LESBIAN (to twi`s way of thinking) women :o AGAIN YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS A FACT, IT IS ALL GOSSIP. NO ONE HAS SEEN THEM IN A COMPROMISING POSITION. YOU ALL SEEM TO JUST REPEAT OVER AND OVER NOTHING BUT GOSSIP. Wonder what kind of spirit that is?

I think God has a sense of humor :P You think God is laughing if this is such a spiritually sad situation that a new believer could get sucked into this IF IT'S TRUE. So why is this funny, it would be sick if it were true.

VP must be spinning in his grave.

Rascal and I don't agree often but....yep, a lesbo is at the helm of twi. AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE BOTH NUTS, IT IS NOT TRUE & I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, SO SPIN ON. You guys must be so bored with life to be so concerned about two people that have nothing to do with your life anymore. Wonder what God thinks of that?

Such a shame, but as I said before the apples on that tree don't fall very far from the tree.

With the new guy running the intl. leadership training program after the trail of destruction and marriage bust-ups that he has left behind let alone his pattern of serial lying if I still cared for the place I would be in DEEP despair.

This is all still gossip, do you ever let up. Stick to the facts.

"Ummm....maybe I was not clear. Many, many of current way believers ARE very sorry for all the S%@$t that happened. Sorry that they were hurt, sorry that they hurt others. Yes, they are restructuring some of what was taught because bad practice became bad doctrine and how can anyone say "Do what I say not what I do" when we SEE the sermon. Yes, there is remorse. People who stood up (me) - got slapped down. People who questioned - got kicked. I didn't stay in and now I can say that I didn't stay out either but what I can say is that I believe and can SEE that people are trying to change the ministry - in doctrine and in practice. Some people have been so badly burned, they will never come back and that chapter in their life is closed."

Lizzy I believed just like you & for a long time stayed in more to "protect" others who were very vulnerable. I too hoped things would change. However; God is our reason for living, not TWI. In order for God's Word to live again for any believer they have to move forward. You are part of The Body of Christ, not The Body of The Way Ministry. If the believers at TWI are truly sorry & want to really see The Mystery live again, they have to leave. They have a corrupt leadership that God can no longer work with but he can work in individuals. Whenever a new person comes what do you have to offer them, Corrupt leaders that are hard hearted and legalistic. So why not live your lifes dream and start a fellowship. You will see God as never before. You do NOT need a title over your fellowship, just The Body of Christ & you are a member in particular. The TWI will never improve they blew their chance and GOD has moved on thru those that left and are moving ahead with The Word Over The World.

God bless you and yours and have a WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING

"Noooooo....don't make me read it :o :unsure: :wacko: :blink:

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Don't be an Oakie, Oakie.

i thought you meant someone else

hey if you type in slime bucket almost the entire leadership shows up

Great Exie!

But seriously JC was so nasty & ego, God on a stick.

and Belle that was excellent, how fitting.......hahahahahahahahahaha, spilled my coffee over that one, ROFLMAO.....

Very good Belle.

Ummmmmm I read the book (The Prophecy), it's online, you can download it for free and it's awesomely done. He has alot of insight and writes very well. It is also encouraging to the average Christian to reflect on some of this stuff. Is there anyone who is NOT ready to get the Hell out of here? Even on a fun day I'm a ready to leave.

Yes the post is long but you can print it out & leave it in the "Johnny". I think this was a great thread and good food for thought. Each member in the Body of Christ has much to contribute. He is a very talented man with great thought provoking insight & intelligence.

IMHO

Come quickly Lord Jesus

If you type in the name of the person you would like to find info on. like Jxxn Chxxxr, you get the low down and links. They just can't hide.

I even tried our family names & came up with some beauties. Amazing how some of us have made the big time internet search.

I started typing in my search engine some of the names of leaders that I saw here and it's amazing what pops up? This was the best!

Our old LC who is now in NJ, JC Barf.......

"The $10,091 average figure is probably misleading though. I wonder how many of the 1006 members have little to nothing on account and how much money is in each of the top 20 accounts and who these top 20 account holders are. I wonder how much Rosie, Donna, Howard and a few others have managed to sock away on thier humble and meager salaries."

Exactly what I wa thinking Gooey. What account has the most funds.

and 1006 members have over 11,000,000.00. Very interesting.

"Most churches are proud of their numbers and make this information available to its members.

Even local churches do better. We have Idlewild Baptist church here which just opened its gleaming new $75 million facility on 143 acres to accommodate its thriving membership which has grown from 350 to 10,000 in 20 years. It is state of the art from top to bottom including a full orchestra and a 200 member choir. They have terrific youth programs, singles programs, and about anything else you can imagine. It is lively, exciting and open, and yes, they teach hot bible. (By the way I am not a member of Idlewild.)

Compare that to TWI which has supposedly reached out to the world for over 50 years. Little old local Idlewild is much larger and alive. And that's just ONE of the thriving congregations here.

http://www.idlewild.org

http://www.theway.org"

You are absolutely correct John & check out this website.

http://www.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer

It's sweeping the nation with Pastor Joel Osteen, no condemnation, no legalistic bs just pure Word, building people up with the Love of God and his new book, "Your Best Life Now" has been #1 on the Best Seller list (secular) for almost a year. He's awesome. A trinitarian but his principals are the Word and they still work and he loves God. He fills the convention centers for days whereever he goes.

FYI The Way II is on it's way out. There will be another MASS EXODUS in the spring. Some are just biding their time and furthermore the legalism is still rampant, just more subtle. Many Corps, still lording over God's heritage still think they are one step down from the throne of God. BARF. When they get out on the field some have awakened. But God's vengence is just and some will just have to learn the hard way.

When the doors close, I wonder what the market is for a property like that with it's own cemetary. SAD, SAD

What happened if Henry Baloko physically assaulted Maggie Muggins? Or Snowball Pete was doing coke? Or Suzi Q was banging the guys she was "witnessing" to at the bar? Or Johnny Jump Up Way Corps family Coordinator was making sexual advances to the women in the WOW group? Or was refusing to get a job?

That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Not mere personality conflicts.

Oak that's called life........People need to learn to deal with these type of problems in life. It can happen anywhere. These things should not have been tolorated by the WOW family. Send them packing and I know that many WOW families did and the leaders stood behind them.

It was not all bad and for the most part accomplished what God wanted. Many got BA & received the gift into manifestation.

Our WOW's did prank stuff like going into the city when they weren't supp'd to leave their town. But God is good always and covered their butts. I remember when they were in a big city witnessing like crazy and came across a man on some steps of a large building. He was singing away about Jesus. It was so funny because they walked up to him to witness and when he saw them he flew down the stairs and ran away.

They also got money in the mail with no names & had electric bills just cancelled without payment. It was an awesome time and also great for people in the area who supported and helped the WOW's. It became to legalistic later on when people weren't allowed to fellowship too much with them and help.

All in all I believe God had his hand of protection on them & most enjoyed the experience. The people I know even stayed another year to help establish the fellowships so they weren't that unhappy. What amazes me is how much negative stuff is posted here and the people with the great experiences don't seem to come to GS.

Oh well.......... :o

I picture rosie and donna taking off before the whole thing collapses. They'll tour Europe together, quit shaving their legs and find some little haven to build their love nest while they live off the booty they've stashed away from the ABS of innocent people.

Harvie and Rico Spaghetti will continue rowing the boat till they reailze there's no one else with them:

GOODNESS GRACIOUS GREAT BALLS OF FIRE!!!

Don't think you can answer this by the choices you have up there. Many of us left for more than one reason but the main one is they got off the Word and that's not a choice. That included doctrine, butting into personal life, legalism etc. Some were abused & others of us saw abuse. So can't answer.

Has anyone heard from or seen Candy Foley from Buzzard's Bay. Was a wow in NJ in 78/79

Anyone know Sylvia King from the Glen Allen area. Heard her husband Bob fell asleep a few years ago? Used to fellowship with them in the 80's. They lived in Amirillo Tx for a while.

I just noticed we don't have an "Illinois" thread so I'll start one. I've been out here in the Chicago suburbs since the middle of 1985; first in Buffalo Grove, then Hanover Park. I've bben in St. Charles for seven years now.

Tommy did you know the McPhearsons (Maynard & Gail) on Hawthorne in Buffalo Grove. Haven't heard from them in quite a while. Would you know if they are still there. We used to be in touch all the time then they left the ministry.

Dear Hopeful,

I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through. I just know from your post that we all need to hold those close to us in high esteem and give them the time they need. Your post is a tribute & example to us all. May the God of all comfort keep you in his loving care. We are all praying that the hurt in your heart is replaced by many wonderful memories. A big hug for you today and please keep us posted so we can help you.

SIT for them today.

Praying for Jessie, too young for this it has to go.

:lol:

And what might those "solutions" be?

HUMmmmmmmmm let see......................

Solution #1 Get out of debt

Solution #2 oh and TITHE

Solution #3 Obey 1 and 2

Solution #4 Fellowship with LIKE MINDED BeLIEVERS

Solution #5 Study Study Study

Solution #6 Stay Tapped INTO the Root

Solution #7 SIT much

Solution #8 Get STS and Way mag

Solution #9 Plurality give

Solution #10 Use the Rod

Solutions #11 PLAN PLAN PLAN

and the last "solution" for the year.............

Solution #12

any takers??????

:lol:

# 12, GET OUT OF THE WAY........

:P Mr. Hammeroni, God has not deserted you.........He is the best one to hit with your problems if you cannot afford someone. I hope you have not closed off this option. Even if it's depression, it can be gone tomorrow and never come back.

Don't give up on him, he's not tied to any ministry or group of persons.

Wish you the best & praying for you.

:D I just love solutions! Then blow them a kiss and be on your way!