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2 hours ago, WordWolf said:

1. A lot of posters who are still Christians are still gun-shy about getting on any bandwagon after what happened in twi.  There's a lot of suspicion when a new idea shows up. (Some of this would have been useful when "Momentus" and "personal prophecy" were thrown at people who were supposed to swallow them and not object or even question either.) 

great observation, I agree, but am not familiar with "personal prophesy" = is that a thing?

well....I consider the Muslim point of view but they go by the book, their book of course so not interested in that at all..

what really set off the spirit for me was considering the Buddhist teachings, and Hindu then ironically the teachings from the churches of my youth...

I like 1, pretty nifty, but 2 seems a bit off.

I think everyone will eventually surrender to forgiveness. 

Continuing to look into the topics but not much more to contribute I think, maybe, don't know till I know, I guess. lol... 

Even non-Christian groups, well some, acknowledge some sort of Jesus. A Muslim guy I know said Jesus prophesied of Muhammad coming. I don't buy that deal much..... he talked about the comforter... anyways there is probably more to say......

All true, raf...

Going solely on the physical evidence there is not much to nail down. 

There is  the spiritual element that many have considered and developed other conclusions.  Involving direct revelation that cannot be analyzed physically. 

study it for yourself, I didn't do it for anyone

good point oldies, I did study up on Jesus in India at one time in my life, compelling evidence there is plenty

there is a pretty long article on the historic Jesus on Wikipedia if anyone is interested

Historical Jesus - Wikipedia

the topic nazi .... lol like the soup nazi, ya know

I have been on topic, very much so....

my attorney is Jesus Christ

lol, you so funny

you should look at yourself, I mean, look at you, throwing insults and such

I know my attorney can handle these things nicely, so I can brush them off... nicely

I haven't made an argument, nor would I waste my time to try. However, I will say what I feel should be said.

it's all fiction until it isn't 

8 minutes ago, chockfull said:

Yeah I’m thinking I’m gonna go with Captain Ahab.

lol.. good one chockfull...lol

questions you should already know the answers to, the graduating class at where I work-every year a new class- not one of them, none, zero want to repeat grade school again

I've been called Christian and many things, serpent is the one I prefer

48 minutes ago, chockfull said:

Christian Fundamentalist

no, more east than that, and north

it don't matter to me to be the center of your hatred, the white whale

things will change soon enough

you totally missed the point of the scripture I quoted

it certainly wasn't about that garbage you just said 

 don't want it in this discussion, yet it is very relevant 

certainly it can't be 'proved' who wrote what, with limited resources 

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life

King James Version

what is john talking about......the word of life is not scripture in a book 

Maybe it doesn't count, what happens in the heart of a man or woman, to many I suppose that is the case. Not to me. Cause it's very real, more real than any ancient texts or artifacts. 

if you made up your mind already, why ask the question

most people have decided, until .....

so.....the story of moby dick makes more sense as well as many more stories 

Based on the evidence we have, can anyone with certainly say Jesus really existed about 2,000 years ago? While incontrovertible proof may be impossible to come by, those who study the period believe there was someone named Jesus Christ living in the area and time period that we generally agree on, said archaeologist Eric Meyers, emeritus professor in Judaic studies at Duke University.

“I don’t know any mainstream scholar who doubts the historicity of Jesus,” said Meyers.”The details have been debated for centuries, but no one who is serious doubts that he’s a historical figure.”

I was talking about you? hmmmmm interesting historical record of Jesus Christ includes lots of stories.....

if you happen to see yourself in a mirror, don't blame the mirror