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Apparently not....

evidence? It's bigger than you, bigger than me. And you will get the evidence, that much is certain, nothing but love for you.

just the facts huh? the very reason for chasing your white whale, he hurt you?

it's impossible to kill it off, as in moby dick it will end you, fortunately there is things bigger than you that will come in to play, and save you

4 hours ago, Raf said:

If you would like me to pick apart the gospel to demonstrate how petty, vindictive, arbitrary and stupid the whole house of cards is, I suggest you buckle up.

no thanks

13 hours ago, Raf said:

"Won over many Jews and Greeks..." to what?

exactly you don't know do you

but you chase it, to destroy it, just like the white whale

the ugly side of human nature

"accepted orthodoxies" has nothing to do with it

I can imagine how badly talked about Paul was in his day.

or you can rely on thought,  yours or someone else that's good, just test it against your spirit 

1 hour ago, Rocky said:

Is that how rational reasoning works?

yes

which is easier or harder, proving something doesn't exist or proving it does exist

there is only one thing that can prove anything, the spirit

I doubt your conclusions Raf, though I respect your right to voice them.

Good summary Mark. Comparing what happened to twi to the first century is foolish I believe. 

proof of a man that was murdered and his disciples persecuted for many years by the powers of that time, not likely

there is one witness that is undeniably sound though, Paul speaks of it constantly in his letters

On 2/14/2024 at 8:21 AM, chockfull said:

Do all other denominations subscribe to the either direct resurrection of souls to be with God or the soul sleep doctrine that the Way has?

good question, and pretty deep, whatever happens is going to happen, that much is certain

The rcs are rich in history. Though I don't like the excommunication deal. I might have been an rc or Jewish had I been raised differently. 

yeah...so....hey the fire is real just as real as water. purgatory? anyway it comes it's coming or has or is happening now In the fires of hell is the same fire of heaven 

nice script on the water and fire baptism sirguessalot

tried so hard for so many years with books and books running out of my ears, like cleaning the outside of the pitcher, while inside is a fuse waiting to be lit, tried it my way then I started listening

anyways, always cool to converse with everyone here, open hearts

purity purify pure yeah, fire does that? possibly the fire of god is a bit different then like you know, a bic lighter or something.....

where's Ham when we need him!

Thinking of purgatory, looking at different uses of flame, lake of fire, burning bush, flaming sword, and all that is very interesting, I think there is some fire involved big time in god almighty

Lol

So you are having pain when you urinate?

I think you're stuck in a twi doctrine loop. Snap out of it. Sheesh

actually it says "for the former things have passed away"

perhaps that has something to do with pain hanging around

what former things need to pass away?

I wish some of these guests would login and weighin......we need their thoughts 

8 hours ago, sirguessalot said:

These are not one-time events, but rather patterns that repeat as the conditions support them, which is perhaps why folks for millenia who try to apply the symbols and archetypes to specific literal one-time events are constantly mostly wrong. 

awesome...along with the rest of your post here...

Not only repeating but multiple overlaps as well and seen together as a gathering together of greatness, the greatness of the spirit...... Christ coming.

On 1/27/2024 at 8:06 PM, Mark Sanguinetti said:

Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea

I think the new heaven and earth are already there and has been for a long time, continuing to be more populated every day.