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  1. I heard him ONCE. And the above is exactly what it sounded like. I remember thinking it sounded just like him in the class (memorized?). It definitely sounded, the thought I had at the time was, immature and like he hadn't had much practice.
  2. I think what you are doing is admirable and I'm sure you are doing it for completely altruistic reasons. I applaud you! For me, I have spent some time taking care of myself in recent years. At some point, I'm sure I will get back into volunteer work of some sort and find a way to give back to the universe. Your experiences remind me of an incredible book I picked up at the library about a month ago that got me thinking. It's Stan Goldberg's Lessons for the Living: Stories of Forgiveness, Gratitude, and Courage at the End of Life. It was in the new book section. I pretty much devored it. Being a companion to the dying has got to be tough work, but Goldberg said it was probably the most revealing and enlightening window into his own soul that he had ever experienced. Good for you for discovering a way to give that also gives back and enriches your own inner wholeness.
  3. Yet, there were so many GOOD people involved with the way international! I hear what you're saying, brainfixed, and understand it! To search out people who used to be affiliated with the way, for that reason, wouldn't make sense. And I don't! But, true friends, as someone said, are truly a gift of God. Those friends are some of my nearest and dearest, and I would never desert them. In fact, my life would not be the same without them.
  4. WOG

    Toxic Faith -

    Yes, it is!!!!!
  5. Here are just a few: The mafiosos who were "hiding" at hq because the mafi@ would kill them for becoming Christians if they found out. The branch leader who taught everyone in the way home about there being 150 different kinds of weeds in the yard that we could eat if we had to if the illuminati took over. The next branch leader who had extreme b.o. ... didn't believe in using antiperspirant...and ended up marrying someone from Poland. Are still blissfully together by all accounts :)
  6. I vividly remember "doctor" teaching MLK, Jr. went to communist party meetings several times when he was young...the implication being that he was one.
  7. Good point. I think it's pretty safe to say that no one would mistake a splinter ldr leaving with the intent of giving to the poor.
  8. I'm sure I'm the only one who fell for this one...free pastry with beverage b4 10:30am tomorrow at Starbuck's. Right????? :B)
  9. Great topic, Tazia. In addition, I've often wondered to what degree do people in cults suffer from obsessive compulsive tendencies? In other words, once we/they find something interesting to them, they find it difficult to disengage and move on to the next topic? I think I lean in this direction sometimes.
  10. We do what we can, JT. Nice to see you and thanks for saying thanks!
  11. Great post, skyrider. I assume this quote was from JAL. Just one clarification. THe rampant sexual sin was within the top tiers of leadership. The majority of the regular corps and believers didn't even know it was going on.
  12. WOG

    Bert Owens

    Anyone know how to get in touch with Bert?
  13. Horrors! Picture this: As an adult, I allow other adults to be between me and Jesus...AGAIN! CES and its offshoots call it your "covering." Reality: Same lemonade stand. Different sign. Result: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ROFLMAO, Hamm!!!!!
  14. ...how interesting... It's so refreshing to think for oneself, isn't it, and not want to fit in... having a monopoly on God is tongue in cheek I suppose... is if anyone could...
  15. sounds like you've learned...drum roll...you have no monopoly on God...... I highly approve :B)
  16. What religion is that? Is this one you just made up?????
  17. Imagine, I think you've hit on something here. All of this is BIG with Evangelicals now. Are they finding a need in people and filling it or do they get people into all of this to disarm them? Christians, they stress, must be in a submitted relationship to be taken seriously. In other words someone must be above you or between you and the Lord. And to be submitted you must go to them for advice. Sound familiar? What was it Martin Luther stressed? The Christian per the scriptures can go directly to God and does not need the Catholic Church to do it for them. Hum, direct relationship with, to, between you and God, Jesus. Is this what The Way took away from us while we were with them? They told us we had a NEED to have someone between us and God, didn't they? Well, that's what Evangelicals do too. Lots of the same stuff in their meetings....
  18. I agree with that. but they presented themselves as the Family of God so we would...help me out here...feel bound to them?? I'm exploring the relationship between the concept of reflection and illusion... could it have been that the illusion they presented somehow dovetailed as the reflection of the love, hope, purpose, stability that we hadn't articulated but always wanted??????
  19. Thanks JavaJane, Act2, Bluegrass festival sounds fun, Act2.
  20. I'm inclined to agree with you. Nicely put. "The stability of the beliefs are an illusion." The stability IS an illusion. Hum, the stability is an ILLUSION... forgive me, still chewing on this one...
  21. So you needed the support system of an extended family so to speak? That's what it felt like to me and maybe that's what I thought I needed the second time too. Just thinking out loud... ...still trying to figure it out...
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