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hehehehe, Probably eiter God or the really want nothing to do with them any more.

My point exactly. How many people were reemed out because they were not walking with the Spirit? This was or is not about the "joe believer" but to expose how the top people of twi are so 5 senses oriented. In posts all the time here on GSC that just makes me see what a fraud they (twi) are. It makes me wonder even more what is true and not true of what we were taught. I see more and more every day examples that twi is a bunch of hooey. Why would God speak to them?

Cockers can be very aggressive, It can be in their nature.They can be aggressive to other dogs or humans. How is he with humans?How is he when he is not at home ie, out and about not a stressful situation? Is Pumkin crate trained? Have you tried Rescue Remedy say about an hour before other dogs show up? It sounds like if this just happens in the house or his yard. He is trying to protect his territory.

Did God call him?

70's I too know about rejecting the family. So sad to say it was twi or nothing even in those days.

Paw, If they are anything like the first two. We may have to get a list of the twi staff and send them a copy. :)

What's part is true allen? I'm sure you have heard stuff that made you crook your head and say to yourself "That just does not sound right." Don't take those teachings on faith. Sure there was truth taught but some of what you or I may think is truth is just a teaching for thier convienence for money or sex or whatever.

I listened to Paw interview Belle this morning. Just makes you wonder where and when God gives revelation to a person that is supposed to be so high and mighty. Just listening to how Belle(joe believer) did things to make twi have to go interview maybe a thousand or so people to try and catch her. Talk about a puppy(twi) chasing its' tail. If you have not listened to the interview, you should Maybe someone can tell me how twi (Gods Ministry :blink: ) could miss so much revelation. Look what happened to the place. It is a shell of what it used to be and really not doing anything to grow. Yes a new class so they can rake in some more money but that is about it. The new pfal class could not have been revelation. They just needed to get craggers face away from twi and now that vpw has been exposed I guess it would not be a good idea to blow the dust off of the tapes. I guess my question to you. How did they miss so much revelation even over the easy things that went on muchless anything big time. Maybe it's as Radar once told me. Things are not nearly as spiritual as twi teaches.

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Wow that was great!!!!!! Paw great job in letting the person get out the story. Belle, You know , I started to listen to this about 5:45 this morning. Awful hard not to shed a tear when you broke down. On a happier note, as rascal wrote. I was caught up in every word about all the things you did and how you had twi beating their heads against the wall. Great job you two.

Yeah Belle, I have lived that too. I am on a football board and has several teams on it. One day the Tampa Bay Bucs fans and us Carolina Panthers fans met for a tailgate party before the PANTHERS and bucs game. It started at 7:00 in the morning and we went and watched the game then back to the taigate area for a few more hours of partying. We called each other our board names the whole time.

Nahhh Mark that was not my point. vp was not my father in flesh and blood. If that was my fathers face it would disturb me.

My only problem with the pic is the Wierwille family having to see it. I think it drives a good point across. How many times in twig were the mugs of the trustees front and center. Even though they said they were not to be worshiped, why were their pics always so prominent? Remember the prayer list twi handed out? I wish I could find mine. When vp was alive was his name first on that list to be prayed for?

Hi John, Sounds like things are going well.

Is how to kill a dvil spirit written? I don't think so. Not in our day and our time. In other words no until the lake of fire.

I never rehearsed either. I was never that uptight about it. I did the lachanta then spoke what I,ME, MYSELF would think of. I NEVER EVER got anything "BIG TIME" out of what I or heard others said. Yes it was supposed to be a comfort message but why call on 3 to get the same thing. I do believe that sit with interp. is real but not in twi. Just to much of the same dang thing. As it turned out I almost tuned out that. It was so boring.

Heheheheh, I did not read the whole snopes page but my first question when I saw this. Is flight 77 still flying someplace?

Oh come on.

JL, I don't envey you one bit on that meeting.

and Robi too.

No John, I think you have it confused. It was the PEOPLE. It was and always will be average "joe" believer that made up twi. People with a pure heart. Not vp who's heart was seared and who was in it for himself. Yes he taught some truth and that to this day is true but some of what he taught as truth ruined people. He KNEW it was not the truth and ruined peoples lives with his spoken words just to live high on the hog and do whatever he wanted. The truth you found in pfal is good and can be found beyond the walls of twi but not to many people as vp were able to live the lies that he got away with and not end up in jail for a very long time(perhaps life). GSC on the other hand has no boundries except to respect other people. There again it is the PEOPLE that make up GSC. Can you imagine what twi would have been like if people were able to think and live their lives ie.Treat people with the love of God, buy a house, a new car, not have to give everything that was plurality and so many other things. twi is a place where people leave a heck of a lot worse in body, soul and mind (some never to recover) in some cases. John it had nothing to do about the integrity of God and his Word with vp, that is the point you don't get. It was all vp and what he could get for himself.

Here you go exie http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...ndpost&p=227238 CK, I'll give you credit.............You keep asking questions. One thing I think you really need to relize. This is a "Anti"twi website. Why is it Anti. Well I think if you could take any of what happened to people here you may start to see the light. This web site is to bring out what happened to people while in twi. One thing I think you fail to see. These people here are your brothers and sisters in Christ. It was not vpw's idea to love his sisters and brothers in Christ but to abuse them as he saw fit for his own benifit, nothing more and nothing less. This web site is for many types of people. So they can find out information, help them get out, heal from abuse and for fellowshiping with eachother. This site is not a "Pro"twi wesite.

Exactly WW. They could walk by the 5 senses or old man all they wanted. There is the double standard again. To where we had to "walk by the spirit" 100% of the time. If we did not we rere reemed. Again they wanted us to do the impossible.

George, I know exactly where you are comming from, even though I do believe in God. All you have to look at is how well the twi higher-up's handled gawd. The ones who supposed to have that direct connection to God. The ones in power that drove twi almost into oblivion. The people that raped, stole pure hearts and slandered peoples names all in the name of God. We were supposed to look up to these people for spirtual insight and to just take their words as Gods words. Through all this mess that I have had to sort through since learning what I have learned through WD and GSC. I have wondered if there is a God at some points. For whatever reason I still do believe in a loving God and the thoughts I have about God are strong. Maybe it is my own version of God that I have because I really do not know what to believe from the bible. I guess that is why I have not stepped into a Sunday service any place to worship Him since leaving twi in 1986. I left right after POP was read to the clergy. I never knew it but I felt that my inner voice was of God and still believe today that was the voice of God telling me to run as fast as I could. That voice I trusted and I listened to I belive was from God. As I learned in 2000 at WD and all that was wrong with twi. I believe God knew why he spoke to me and I would find out later. My point of all of this...........I believe God told me to run even though I did not understand why at the time. I just ran. Hope this makes sense :blink:

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