justloafing

OK dove lets have it your way. You "seem" to admit that wierwille stole works. I have seen here on GSC where his info came from. So from now on instead of quoting pfal quote the original auther where he stole it from.

Or if you believe he was the "Father" of the hook shot

I was trying to remember the name of that movie John. Thanks. It is probably one of the worst movies but evey time I run across it I watch it. :) LOL on tripping.............it makes you paronoid when your straight.

In Monty Python and the Holy Grail. When ever they are getting beat in a fight (mid evil times) Instead of retreat they yell "Run Away, Run away"

Oldies, I don't know if anyone has figured out what you are

I can't answer your questions Eagle. If it is true that lcm's "nice" was trained out of him. That would just make me think of how evil Wiewille was.

Wow what great points all of you!!!!! I am like some and have not forgiving him for what he has done. I more than likley would if he had an apoligy from the heart. I feel more sorry for the man for being a person that was entrusted with peoples lives and the trail of destruction he left behind all in the name of God. More than anything I think of him as a pityfull human muchless a MOG. Pure rotten trash is what lcm is.

Thanks Mark. I always have my eyes open.

The only one I voted for was the Son of God not God. All the others were other or do not know. I have walked away from religion after twi but still believe in God and love him with all of my heart and still pray to God. TWI just ruined any type of religion for me but who knows that could change but it has been 19 years since I have left twi.

Mark, GREAT POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! May I add, Of course he taught some truth. Other wise no one would believe a single word he said but that truth is out there to find with out Wierwille's teachings. A Wierwillite, is a person that is a "just get over it" person. A Wierwillite also wants to explaine away all the peoples lives he ruined. To me it seems a Wierwillite really does not care about people but is a "me me" person.

Way to go IGOTOUT. You devil possessed mo fo you HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Here is the link guys. Pretty damn sad. As you can tell twi has not changed. http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseact...9E7AE95B8732429

huh?

Great post sky. Yes these people were groomed to the positions that they hold now. They had to sell out to vp and lcm doctrine to get where they are now. When I say sell out............they had to believe and act on the doctrine being spewed by the top leadership. To make the point. The now prez of twi actually said she would procure women for lcm. Not much has changed they are still conducting damage control. They are trying their best to paint a "New" twi. Problem is it is still the same people and the same ideas. IMO they dropped for now some of the things lcm taught M&A and No Debt. They did this to survive as a ministry. It is not about saving souls but saving money for themselves.

Yes Allen and some are dead because of his teachings. Arn't you the compassionate one? Are you craig?

"Try"?????????? That is not believing as twi would teach. Just do it. :blink:

Mark, I used to think that way too. I now think God nor His Word ever set vp free from his "old man" and that part is the shame of it all.

I used to believe exactly the way you did ck. I thought the ministry started out good. Just over the last year or year and a half I have been thinking it was never any good at all. vp laced pfal with lies of his own life. ie snow storms on gas pumps, college degree. As far as his doctrine goes and what he inserted to be practiced as the spoken word ie. "What killed that little boy". He had to think about these things long before he taught them. You read about his child hood and the way he was. Always trying to get out of work being a bully and an alleged affair before twi ever started. No I am not saying theman was without sin as none of us are except you know who. What I am saying is vp told out and out lies in pfal and he knew he was. We were to master the Blue Book and teach from it. His ministry was ego driven. To get what he wanted wheter it was money, sex anything to support his lifestyle. He used his teachings to promote a lifestyle that was not what God wanted but what vp wanted. Some can dismiss all the bad things he did and just take away the good that they got from the ministry. Some say how good the ministry was good for others and may not be alive today if it was not for vp and pfal. This all is probably true. There are people on this board that were abused sexually, spiritually and emotionally. Leaving out the emotional abuse and takeing the other two it ranks into the thousands. I would say a lot of us had the emotional abuse put upon us and did not know it and some to this day don't know it. A lot of people have such a hard time after they get out because of the abuse. There is an active topic now about how someone is tormented about leaving. She wanted out and got out but she is still so tormented and guilt racked for leaving. She is trying to get her own life back but the brainwashing that twi did to her, is making it so hard on her to be able to be free from the guilt she feels when actually there should be no guilt at all. She is just one of the thousands that have gone through this. Of course some more extreme than others.

Please do share Allen.

DJS since it was never published(I don't think it was). This is the best I can do ya. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/waydale/main/corpsnotes.html It is a little more than falf way down the page. It is corps notes. Hope it helps.

I have read a lot on there. They are mostly younger with a few older people thrown in. From what I gather some are party animals and some are into it and some are going through a phase. There is a Rev. that is from twi but he does not say a whole lot. IMHO it is really not a great tool of twi unless someone gets serious on it. No one really is right now.

Make twi repent and say they are sorry for everything and everybody they have wronged.

A man without error, go figure :blink:

Lets look at the whole quote about "my" agenda. It is not to slam people here. It is to express myself and my feelings about what I call the facts about twi. I think I have read just about everything that GSC has to offer about the things that went on in the way and I am positive I did WayDale. I truley hurt to see what has happened to people that were there and I try to keep people from going in. I may act like a pric k here in this part of GSC but in truth I am easy going and love to laugh. To me this part of the forum is very serious and I treat it as such. My agenda is about twi not the posters of GSC. As far as level playing field. It is as flat as the Pan Handle of Texas. It is just the axe some people feel they have to grind because they feel out numbered. Heck I can get frustrated too at some posters too. The "Why is everbody picking on me" does not work. Dove even though I don't agree with what you post sometimes. If I saw anyone being mean to you for no reason I would be the first to jump up and help (even though you probably don't need help). This is not a 50 against one fight. It is more people thinking one way than some others and sometimes tempers flair. This thing is going to get moved to the Soap Opera. Maybe we can get back on target and bring down twi :)

Or you can add to what they said and really pi$$ the person off. Not recomended