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I read the forums you posted in John. They are being great. What it does remind me of is how pure their beliefs are and may the twi fall if they hurt these people too. I am sure a lot of us can relate to how they are feeling about how good twi is. I have looked at some profiles and see many of them love to "party". That shows me they are very young in the ministry and have no clue of the life changes that the ministry is going to demand of them. They are just reaching the tip of the iceberg.

Bingo IMO better for Sunesis to say it but I will give you my short version. In short he saw there was nothing he could do to right the wrongs he had done. JMHO

Or could it be a confession? He knew the evil that he done and wished he had done the right thing. That is the way I always took it. Of course when I first heard the saying, I was still in. I thought he was just saying he was not perfect enough. I had no idea at the time how unperfect he was. Makes me think he knew what was right but said "to hell with what is right" during his life untill the last days.

CK IMHO When Wierwille was in control I think it was rotten to the core. I ask why you think it was good when vp was the head? You may have posted but I am to lazy to go read through this whole thread. I really want to know why you think it was so good since it was a "Front" for a terrible human(vpw).

Exactly guys. I was trying to figure out how to put it myself. It is nothing that wrenches my gut any more. I have basically left them by the way side. Why I do talk so bad about them on here is because of the pain and suffering they have put so many through and to this day people are suffering, that I do know for a fact. The last reason I do not have anything nice to say about them is I hope just hope someone may read and decide to get out or not go in. TWI, I DO NOT LOSE SLEEP OVER YOU

Seth, It just sounds like you are getting old to me. :) Really though...................Keep us updated good thoughts and prayers comming your way.

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"Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:" That is the question. Look at who it was written to or better yet the context. It was to leaders and not the people following. In other words. People that did not follow the word the leaders were supposed to forgive. This verse has nothing to do with what the leaders did to the "church". If leaders did this to the people they would have been killed.

Does anyone know who the plane was sold to?

Could be a software thing with GSC. That would be my guess. Maybe try rebooting your puter but I bet it is the first thing I said. I have been in the open forums today but I have not tried Active Topics :blink:

I am all over that Rascle........I feel the exact same way. Lets put it this way.....they would just about have to be on their knees begging.

Thanks for the birthday greetings. For the rest.................I agree

Well Exie, I have heard about the Catholic church and what they have done. It AINT right. I know we have a couple of very level headed members here that practice the Catholic religion. If what I read from what they say through many postings of thiers. I would trust anyone with them. They seem very "Brotherly Love" as it should be. Yes the Cathlolics have their problems and it has gone on and I do think they tried to hide it. I don't think (I could be wrong since I really do not know a whole lot about the Cathloic Religion) the Pope is out there raping our sisters in God and raping our brothers and sisters in God of their own individualism on how unique each one fits into Gods household. I do think it is and was for twi to do anything possible including THE VERY ELITE and mostly THE VERY ELITE to do anything for twi to survive. That means owning up pulicly to what they have done wrong.

Thank you everyone. I had a relaxing day with my dear dear buddy radar. Sat out side and soaked in the sun for awhile , watched the race and had a great great dinner that she made. You are all teriffic people and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for each and everyone of you.

Call it forgivness or what ever it is. I wont let those bastards ruin my day. What I will do is yell about them and how evil they are. Plaine and simple.

This is my dumbest one. I had moved from where I first got into twi. For PFAL where I came from eveyone dressed up for the first and last session. The new place I moved to was about to run a pfal class. Well the magic day came. I got dressed up in my suite and the class began. The class cordinator came up to me during the first break and told me "How dare you show up and out dress me". I told him this is what I had always done and thought it was a what was supposed to be done for the class. EXCUUUUUUUSE MEEEEEEEEEEEE :blink:

Yes Mex, It may take akong time to get over things but you will hold on to what is true. True in your life in my opinion will happen over and over. You will also find at times things that you still think is true will be disproved. Just never fear in yourself. Whatever you find in lifes journey you will find out whatever you do to find the truth out what is true. I think I know you well enough through your posts that you do have an open heart to God to allow him to work in your heart. Just give it time.

Mex I have found since I found WayDale 6 years ago. A lot of what we were taught just has big holes in it. Like you said the law of believing and the way it was taught. It was easier when I left and knew know one that was out or in for that fact. For 14 years I held on to the teachings because I still was way brained and really thought I had to because I thought the words spoken by twi were true. 6 years now after finding WD and GSC being a somewhat active member I am finding out it is ok to think for yourself and God is not going to let you or your family get run over because of my believing.

Mark............Will you please quit posting right after me. You make me look like a bafoon.

Exactly Groucho. My guess is that the new class will be a lot like vp's. I say that because of who is in charge. They(the ones in charge) heard a lot of vp's teachings and that was the class that they say changed lives and see what the rewards were of the orginal class a "cash cow". After all wernt these the same people that "supported loy craig martindale and all he did until he was caught?

Good Lord rascle. That post is hardly fair. Each paragraph is worth a look at and since I am "hunt and peck" on the keyboard I wont even try to comment on all of those things. :) I guess what I have learned from the bullies down to a loving believer is this. When people climed the ladder way up in the ministry I honestly think they lived by seperate rules than the rest of us and I'll be damed if they did not tell us so. So many times were we told not to watch TV because we did not need to hear what was on it. We were told they would watch it for us and tell us if we needed to know anything. They were there to control our lives, teach us what they wanted us to believe and for us to live by it. Anything short of that and we were failures in their eyes hence we got the boot. I also believe they were kicking out people that questioned things that were done and taught so they could lead their life style. Heavens forbid a lower ranked believer had better ideas or insight than they did. It was a total ego trip and they were going to protect it NO MATTER WHAT.

TS I think you are correct about who really taught us(Stiles/Bullinger/Leonard/etc-ites) I think what Oldies was saying is the wierwille taught it to him so that is who he credits. Believe it or not that I can understand if I read him correctly.

So they have a new research dept.........and they put together a class that fast.