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Not ringing any bells here... George

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I would suggest that mathematical axioms are necessary only insofar as one needs mathematics. The rules of mathematics are based on definitions of operators and some axioms, from which the remainder can be deduced. One doesn't need to presuppose a God in order to have a worldview, but one either believes that God exists or does not exist. Either belief is a non-falsifiable assumption, i.e., an axiom; and one's worldview will be based on it and conclusions derived from it. I also want to make clear that every axiom is an assumption, but not every assumption is an axiom. If the assumption is testable or can be derived from other, more basic, concepts, it is not an axiom. George

Do not exist. These would be conclusions, not axioms. I don't know what "your point" is. My point is that we all make assumptions upon which we base our conclusions. The examples I gave were not "straw men"; they were accepted examples of axioms to demonstrate my point. What "proven/established logic and evidence" is the basis for your belief system? George

That sounds really familiar, but I can't quite place it. George

I think Ian McKellan might be in it, but I really don't know. If he is, I could go from there. George

First, I have to wonder if Garth thinks he lives in a world without axioms, where somehow everything can be proven. Garth, do you believe that X=X? Prove it! Do you believe that X+Y=Y+X? Prove it! These are just basic mathematical axioms which most high-schoolers know. (And, at least when I was in school, they were taught AS AXIOMS.) Do you believe that God exists? Prove it! Do you believe that God does not exist? Prove it! Again, either of these statements, if accepted (and since they are mutually exclusive, one or the other must be true), is an axiom. From a set of axioms, logical conclusions can be drawn; but there are no "first principles" which are not axioms. For me, it is axiomatic that if the Bible is God's Word, then it is inerrant. (I suppose the actual axiom is that God is inerrant.) A conclusion from this axiom is that if I accept the Biblical assertion of Jesus Christ as God's Son, I must also accept that Moses parted the Red Sea. Others may pick and choose what particular parts of the Bible they wish to believe, but there are axioms underlying any such choices. So, perhaps I should re-state my thesis: ASSUMING the axiom of an inerrant Bible, the fundamentalist methods used to interpret it (as per Bullinger and many others) are logical. Feel free to disagree with my axiom, but don't pretend that you don't have others. George

Indeed. (Though it's spelled "Tutti Frutti.") Your turn. George

Charlene, the only problem I have with the article is that you describe the inerrancy of the Bible as a TWI conclusion. I don't remember ANYONE ever saying "...therefore, God's Word is perfect." The inerrancy of the Bible is an AXIOM, something assumed to be true without proof. For me, a fundamentalist, it is not only reasonable but also makes the Bible more than just a bunch of short stories. It makes more sense to me to believe ALL of it than to pick and choose. George

I'll go again, then. "Wop bop-a-loo-mop a bop bam boom!" George

I haven't seen any of the HP movies. George

WG? You're up! George

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Annoying, isn't it? George

"Morn should keep his big mouth shut!" "Home? Where is it? Some day we'll know... cousin." "Have you known any twinned Miradorn, commander?" "I'm afraid I haven't met any before now." "In my species, we are not just twin brothers... together we are a self... two halves of one being. I am incomplete now." "The fact that you just killed a man doesn't affect your appetite?" "You could've left me behind." "Don't thank me, I already regret it." George

I love the night life; I love to boogie... "Love at First Bite." "Mark doesn't want you because you're mean and evil. He wants me because I am nice and sweet and pure, so f--- off!" "Oh Mark, I can't believe you're going to throw away our relationship on a one-night stand with a chauffeur and a butler and a slut who eats buttons! But you did. You really did!" "Oh, Robin, PLEASE?" "Mark, we've been through this sex thing a million times." "Half way through it a million times. It's what people do when they're in love! It's natural. It's right." "Well it's not natural or right for me to do it in a car." "What about an ice cream truck?" George

I haven't seen this one in a long time, but the "black chicken" line would have worked in the "Flicks remembered from one line" thread! A fitting movie for this time of year, especially since the "black chicken" was a bat. :lol: Obviously, Raf knows it, too. I'll give the answer later, if no one else does. George

I'm having trouble remembering the exact title. It was sort of a spoof of the kung fu genre. One kid tried to fool people into thinking he was adept at martial arts because he was oriental. I'm sure it will come to me. George

Rule 8 has a problem if one of the nouns is replaced by a pronoun, and I'm not sure of the correct resolution. Suppose we were already talking about Cesar. Would one say, "He and Maribel's house"; or, "His and Maribel's house"; or (this strikes me as being the worst option) "Him and Maribel's house"? (Replacing Maribel by her isn't as problematic. I'm sure the correct form there would be "Cesar and her house", though "Cesar's and her house" has a better ring to it.) Again, if separate items are being discussed, there isn't as big a problem: "His and Maribel's job contracts" or "Cesar's and her job contracts" work just fine. George

Assuming I'm right, "Have you known any twinned Miradorn, commander?" "I'm afraid I haven't met any before now." "In my species, we are not just twin brothers... together we are a self... two halves of one being. I am incomplete now." "The fact that you just killed a man doesn't affect your appetite?" "You could've left me behind." "Don't thank me, I already regret it." George

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"Changed" was filmed at PFAL 77, which VPW taught at Ball State University. Perhaps you were there... George

Original series "I, Mudd." Harry and Kirk knock out "Norman" with an antinomy. (Haven't had a chance to use THAT word since logic class in college!) George

Steve!'s response implies the NG episode "Darmok." As I recall, Starfleet had had encounters with the Tamarians but never understood them. WW's first exchange would belie that. George

Sure sounds like James T. Kirk's final words to me, Steve!. George