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Thomas Loy Bumgarner

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  1. whether groups like Joyful Noise, Pressed Down, Good Seed, Paul Vergillio would have progressed to the level of Hillsong, Casting Crowns, Don Moen, Ron Kenoty, Newsboys, Paul Baloche, Robin Mark, Bob Fits, Brian Donerksen, or Chris Tomlin to name a few is highly doubtful with VPW in charge of Way Productions, much less LCM or RR.

  2. I never said you and timlee were the same. Both you and he should read some of the books by former TWI believers who are members of GSC. Also LCMS pastor John Juddes has written articles about Wierwille because he counseled so many former members. Imlikesoconfused, if you are a different person from timlee, please accept my apology for accusing you of being a troll(which I did not). Also read some of the forums   here on GSC. They may clear up some confusion.

     

  3. Tim, you sound angry that we know things about Wierwille that you disagree with. If you are a Southern Baptist preacher with a BA in Theology, you should recognize we are not into giving Fake News about TWI. Experts both from outside and former members from the inside know the truth better than you. Are you an old time Way believer or child of one?

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  4. Regained my sanity. Leah Remini's series on A&E and reading Charlene's 1st chapter from Undertow has truely spiritually renewed my mind to adult maturity, not TWI's perverted "Renewed Mind". Thank God I never had screaming matches with Wierwille, Geer, or Martindale, or all 3 would be dead and I would be in prison for life with no parole. Yes, formerly I could give back what they would put out, and they would have been bullied by me. Of course I no longer am that angry.

  5. The major difference is The Way International claim the Bible as the source(likewise Branch Davidians) where as Ron Hubbard rejected Scripture and did Dianetics as a self help pyshological therapy, originally denying religion and never did "worship services", only after Miscaverge became Chairman of the board of directors(RFR like?) did the IRS finally declare them a religion and non-profit tax status. So a different type of cult.

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