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New Baseball Drug Bombshell APRIL 27--In a new steroids bombshell, a former New York Mets clubhouse employee has admitted distributing various performance-enhancing drugs to "dozens of current and former Major League Baseball players." Kirk Radomski, 37, pleaded guilty today to distributing anabolic steroids and laundering the proceeds of the illicit business, which operated from his New York home. According to a plea agreement filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, California, Radomski sold ballplayers anabolic steroids, Human Growth Hormone, and amphetamines from 1995 to December 2005, when his home was raided by federal agents. In the plea agreement, a copy of which you'll find below, Radomski stated that during his prior clubhouse employment he developed "contacts with Major League Baseball players throughout the country to whom I subsequently distributed anabolic steroids and athletic performance-enhancing drugs." Radomski, who worked for the Mets from 1985-1995, added that he "had personal contact with some of my baseball drug clients, but consulted and conducted drug transactions with others over the telephone and the mail." The court filing does not identify any of Radomski's clients. (The court filing is 8 pages)

Simon... how can you BE so f***ing funny!? Do you have baloney in your shoes or something?

Thank you. :) I hope you feel better now.

Even in the event that IS the reason... look at what has taken place regarding breast cancer awareness, prevention, treatment, etc. in the last 20-30 years BECAUSE women got organized so that the problem would no longer be overlooked. And I do have relatives on both the maternal and paternal side (aunts) who have had breast cancer... and one of them died because she didn't get lump(s) examined by physicians until it was way too late... she had known for a long time about the lumps... Anyway, I never will doubt that the world can change because of the actions of a small group of committed (women) people... because (as Margaret Mead observed decades ago) that's the only thing that HAS changed the world! And I've seen (big, societal) change happen before.

Heh heh! Of course, you are a most resourceful youngster! ;) (hey, 50 AIN'T old anymore!)... I don't know if you look at those google ads at the bottom of the page these days... they bring up things relating to words that google "sees" on the page being brought up... anyway, one just now was www.lymphedema-options.com which I figure you've probably already checked into... I love it when someone opens doors so wide for so many (this IS a growing concern, right?)... with the kind of curiosity and persistence you, our own Prof. niKa, are demonstrating! I'm sure we are all most thankful, proud of (etc., etc.) you...

That's great news! Thanks for the update... you betcha we'll be praying for our favorite college englich teacher! :) Wrdsandwrks... back several pages (on this thread), niKa shared some of those personal travails with us for prayer and support... if you want to catch up... :) wrdsandwrks... starting at about post #5807, which I think is on page 290

thank you... but the point I had made was NOT with regard to him having proven something outside of this thread and his slanderous comments. He has admitted that he made a comment HERE that he has now NOT been able to document. THAT was the issue. Period. But thanks for keeping track. I have NO need for the last word on Alec Baldwin's obviously bad move made in leaving the recording for his daughter. However, IF you guys want to hold onto your apparent misunderstanding of me having called out someone here for making a slanderous comment, I know I'm not going to be able to change your mind... BTW --- several days ago, I DID research mr eagle's claim. I found that -- quite contrary to the nonsense about Baldwin claiming sex with animals is a good thing -- both he and his ex-wife are widely known to be animal rights advocates.... that is, that he is known to advocate against using animals for medical research. Baldwin known for advocating FOR animal rights

Me too! :D

So, is your whining just code for you admit that you spoke out of turn about someone you hold, for political reasons in contempt regardless of his divorce/custody personal transgressions? And my privately messaging you was an attempt to resolve this issue privately, without having to call you out publicly. Obviously, you refused my efforts to do so... your choice. No problem. You definitely have admirers here, who know you in real life. That's wonderful. I hope that you, when you consider slandering people, give pause and think better of it. IF you have something you can document, that is worthy of discussion, please share it. Again... I respect thoughtfulness in people who disagree with me... most notably, MarkO (who started THIS thread, but with whom I've enjoyed several discussions, and not usually agreeing with each other)... and TheEvan... who is clearly a thoughtful reflective, intellectually honest person... with whom I seldom agree, but appreciate his approach... AND I should NOT forget Raf... who I respect tremendously for his professionalism in his profession, which carries over into how he conducts himself here. Now... back to bashing Baldwin... carry on. Dave, I believe Mr. Eagle DID indeed offer his book, or make it known here at GSC... though he didn't mention it on this thread. Are YOU saying HIS book relates to THIS thread somehow? ---------- And Garth... Baldwin and Harrison Ford are indeed very different actors... and I too believe that Ford does a much better Jack Ryan... but Baldwin has his acting strength too...

You make a good point, excie... your "what if" question about the mother... it practically goes without saying. A family law attorney recommended this book to me a couple of years ago. It didn't help me accomplish anything in court, but it DID help me understand the dynamics of high-conflict divorce. In the Name of the Child, at amazon.com This linked page includes editorial reviews and excerpts. Key terms in the book that relate directly to the Baldwin-Basinger debacle (for their daughter) include: parental alienation and parental alignment. Some psychologists take parental alienation so far as to call it a syndrome (a diagnosible disorder). THAT part is NOT widely accepted, BUT... this book shows what parental alienation and alignment ARE each as a dynamic in the divorce/family relationships. That's why some people here on this thread have genuine insight... and some are speaking from an intellectual detachment that is also detached from anything relating to genuine experience or academic study. The BOTTOM LINE is that BOTH parents are woefully deficient in their parenting of this particular child, UNquestionably.

Thanks for the insight. The statement to which I referred was (is) so outrageous, it demanded attention. IF it is shown to have been true/correct, I will apologize. Otherwise, an intelligent fellow like eagle, whether a talk show host in real life or not, should know that slanderous comments, even if the target never knows they are made, really do NOT demonstrate the intelligence and integrity that he (eagle) is apparently known for. And on the three versions of the truth... though that's really only an expression, there is a kernel of truth to it, and it IS an excellent point.

Wouldn't THAT be "hard working" gossip? :P

There you go pretending to know what's inside my head AGAIN. If you had INTELLLECTUAL HONESTY, we wouldn't be having to go over this issue AGAIN. IF you find your documentation, I'll respect you a bit more. IF you find your documentation, we'll see -- perhaps from the context -- what it really means... and we'll get to evaluate (not just me... every one who would like to will get to) whether it IS or is NOT relevant to this discussion. Do you make idle gossip on unfounded allegations on your talk show? Do you inform your guests/listeners about what they will or will not like?

hmmm... ok, maybe not!

Now you want someone ELSE to do research to back up YOUR idiotic claim? That's rich. First, you demonstrate how loose you like to play with facts about people who hold different values than yourself... Then you psychoanalyze ME... then you want OTHERS to help you out of the jam your sloppy writing/conduct gets you in? That's even richer. If you want to prove Alec Baldwin is more "evil" or "sick" than having made a very serious mistake in what SHOULD have been a private situation, then it behooves YOU (not those who might "remember" something for you) to back up your claims. IF you are/were REALLY (any kind of) talk show host, the YOU would know the seriousness of making slanderous/libelous claims. I'm NOT defending what Baldwin DID (that has been documented beyond question). I AM saying that we cannot have any serious discussion if people introduce unrelated, undocumented GOSSIP into it. And let's make sure readers know that the quote, from me, that you cited above, was NOT addressed by me to YOU. Otherwise, one might surmise that I told YOU that you had good insight on this matter. Which I did not.

Rick, I emphatically disagree with you on this one. I was NOT bullying ANYONE. My response to "eagle"'s INSANE comment was plenty reasonable. IF he has the intellectual honesty to either document his claim or if unable to do so, then withdraw it and apologize for making it, THEN I will certainly consider apologizing. Otherwise, I did NOTHING untoward on this item, UNLIKE what "eagle" did. He might be (probably is) a good guy otherwise... but there's NO justifying unloading something so outrageous in a discussion like this.

That's what I thought! ;)

Let's take the uncertainty out of that statement. Why? There's ONLY one person whose opinion matters in this whole shebang (shades of American Idol and William Hung?). And that one person gets to give Baldwin ORDERS that Baldwin MUST obey... and here's a hint... that person is NOT Kim Basinger. But is there dew on the fleece? But I AM here! Behaving nicely? :blink: Who ME? Couldn't be... :P

Hate to disappoint you then... but not only COULD she have done so, that's the ONLY WAY she SHOULD HAVE dealt with it. There is wisdom, nandon, in making your points by asking questions like you did. For many people who might not have gotten the point otherwise, you gave them the opportunity to come to the ONLY best answer on their own. Nice job.

U R 1 sick puppy! Let's not forget -- vibram souls! (or is that SOLES?) :wacko:

FYI From Monsters and Critics.com People News Basinger backlash grows after Baldwin rant By Stone Martindale Apr 23, 2007, 16:13 GMT There are no winners in the sordid, never ending custody battle over Ireland Baldwin. In the aftermath of the voice mail message Alec Baldwin left for his daughter, which sounded as if Alec was addressing his agent or manager, the Basinger-Baldwin players were seen out and about this past weekend. Baldwin was seen leaving a deli in the Hamptons, and Kim Basinger and Ireland were seen with a man reported to be a bodyguard according to TMZ. There is a growing chorus of negative comments on web chat rooms, blogs and talkback commentaries to posted stories regarding the fact the mother, Basinger, did not keep the family business private and not expose the problems to a court of public opinion. Baldwin's frustrations turned to rageful anger at his loss of control in the lack of access to his daughter, and he wrongly took it out on her as if she were an unrelated adult Many wonder why the acrimony and ill will has grown to such an unmanageable level over a child both parents love and care for. On May 4th, the judge will decide what kind of contact Baldwin will have in the long term. TMZ reports both Baldwin and Basinger will attend the hearing.

I certainly do not speak for Krys, but my impression of her post is that she was indicating her belief that the frustration/anger so obviously apparent on the recording was due to his frustration with Basinger. I believe that very likely IS the source of the emotion we heard on it. And, to reiterate, I still do not excuse Baldwin for saying what he did to his daughter.

Yes sir! Will do! I was just wondering... no call for alarm. Here, have a snow cone, or something...

Here's to your continued success in doing that for your children.

I believe you have good insight on this type of problem situation. I feel the sadness you must have experienced. Unfortunately, this very point/issue is well documented in professional literature regarding child custody matters. I too have experienced this very thing. That's why I'm sure there's more to it than we've been made privy to. Emphatically, the child should NOT be subjected to what she experienced from EITHER parent. Obviously, all of us here can related to this whole thing from completely different sets of experiences. Which likely accounts for the wide range of reaction. But the most likely thing happening is that BOTH parents are doing things they should not. And Edi... could it be that Basinger is just trying to protect her child? NO. That scenario is highly implausible. IF that's ALL she wanted to do, she would NOT have had the recording leaked to the media. That Baldwin says what he says about Basinger leaking the recording certainly doesn't help his case, and that what he says -- about Basinger leaking it -- is true does NOT excuse what Baldwin said to his daughter. And Eagle, your statement, the one regarding which you don't approve of my characterization... was and is absurd on its face. Further, it is MOST irrelevant to this thread, even in the unlikely event your claim is true. Therefore, my point, still quite valid, is that your statement/claim has NO place on this thread because it is probably NOT true, but even if it is true, it just doesn't belong in this discussion. Therefore, I reiterate -- it's B***S***. And if you don't like what I have to say, it won't hurt my feelings is you simply ignore it...