Nathan_Jr

One thing I learned from imitating victor and standing on his shoulders is one can MAKE the Bible say say anything at all with enough fudging and imagination, because this is how (H-O-W) he did it. Victor showed me one can BELEEEEVE the Bible to say what one wants it to say. It will say what vic says, if one BELEEEVES it will. Lo shonta koala!

Yep. I remember this, too - and I have CRS. One of hundreds of asserted natural man opinions victor put forth ABOUT scripture that had no basis IN scripture. victor couldn’t exegete his way through a wet 3x5 card to get to a Quaaluded teenage girl on the other side. He just never learned how (H-O-W) to accurately and honestly handle the text. If only he could have believed big enough… Bless his little, black heart.

Here's Dr. Michael Heiser getting geeky with the granules of the text, as he does. The first four minutes lay out the culty-cult bullshonta of serpent seed. If you want to skip the creepy cringe, Heiser swoops in at the 4:00 mark.

Limestone carvings seem to be more resilient than writings on papyri. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kish_tablet

I wonder if they were taught to write the new names on 3x5 cards so they might remember.

We have writings of the ancient Sumerians that have been dated to around 3500 BC.

Yep. All that flesh and blood eating would have been cray cray for the Jews at that time to hear.

John the Baptist was a Jew. Jesus was a Jew, as was Peter and Jesus’ brother, James. What can we know about them? Turns out, more than ol’ victor was apt to teach. Paul claimed to be a Jew. He also said he could be anything to anyone in order to persuade them to HIS gospel. Luke/Acts narrates from one POV. It’s the only POV, if you let it be. I, too, am interested in what the Jews knew, particularly the sects of Messianic Judaism linked to those at Qumran. Are you familiar with the Dead Sea Scrolls? Are you familiar with the Gospel of Thomas? I don’t presume to have any answers. The endeavor of free inquiry itself is often satisfying enough, even if it gives rise to more questions, which inevitably it will.

I want to thank you, again, WordWolf, for the link VP and Me. It's been a challenging week, and just a cursory reading of this drivel has me laughing hysterically. Gold. Pure gold.

Like, "Mogadishu kuala lumpur jakarta lo shonta..." (That'll show him not to sleep during corps night teaching!) What at comedy!

Thanks!

He made it available? Of course. How can you get something if it's not available? What is the source of this quote? Did anyone here submit a pledge of allegiance on a 3x5 card? What does that look like? This is simultaneously horrifying and hilarious. Cults and their 3x5 cards!

Loy Craig had this kind of authority as far back as 1976?!? When did victor rub oil on Loy’s head? 1982?

Does faith imply obedience? Find out for yourself. I’m not finished thinking about this asserted claim, but I’m inclined, at this moment, to suspect some theological maneuvering. I think the more important implication is a subtle, sinister one: faith implies obedience - obedience to the clergy. How will you learn, unless you are taught? And who will teach you? A man of God, of course! How will you know he is a man of God? He himself will say so of himself.

Except there IS a 'new class.' Even Mike admitted to taking it. It costs $100. The duration is 18 hours - 14 hours too long. https://www.theway.org/blog/power-for-abundant-living-today/ And, in spite of their massive endowment, they will gladly take your money - they've made it very easy. https://www.theway.org/giving/ GSC makes it easy to give money, and it will gladly take it, also. It cost money to run the servers that host this site. The owners of GSC are not getting rich and the donors are not going broke - can't say the same for TWI.

These wretched, depraved humans occupy the #3 spot among the top ten most wicked people in our day and time.

The foolish fool said with his mouth, "Lo Shanta." Let Snowball Pete interpret.

Got... ...to... ...make... it... ...FIT! The Bible doesn't have one author. This is obvious to anyone who has ever studied the Bible. When you say Author, you me victor's god? Why do you capitalize Author?

More accurately, The interpretation of the sentence "the Bible interprets itself," according to the resources WITHIN the sentence, is: the only valid interpretation of the Bible is victor's. When one turns away from idolatry and error and makes a free will choice to love God, Truth, one can understand the sinister meaning of this devilish doctrine.

Mmmmmph Where do priests and bishops and popes who force children into sodomitic sessions go?

The interpretation of the sentence "the Bible interprets itself," according to the resources WITHIN the sentence, is: the only valid interpretation of the Bible is victor's. When one turns away from idolatry and error and makes a free will choice to love God, Truth, one can understand the sinister meaning of this devilish doctrine.

Riiiiiiiiiight. It has? No one is upset. Again, no one's upset. That's all there is to understand about that. Good for you. Sounds like you are quite satisfied with your own private interpretations of victor's verbiage. Bravo! So proud of ya. Is that your own private interpretation of what it FIRST says to you? Strange. That's not at all what the sentence itself says. Thanks. So what? You're wrong. Ha ha!! "Airline fiends." You got the wrong impression. That's kinda what "The Bible interprets itself" is saying. You haven't? We all crawl before we walk. Proud of ya! More accurately: HOW (H-OW) to interpret the Bible, according to victor's schema. Why is victor's private interpretation better than your own? The resources WITHIN? Resources? Within? Like the "resources" WITHIN a Borges poem, a Steely Dan song, or a Terrence Malick film? This makes no sense.

I want make clear, in light of so many cryptic posts in this thread, I use TWI as a fiat, a symbol, an idea, a shorthand. In the context of my post, TWI represents: any person who imitates and stands on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille; any person propagating the cultic ideology of victor paul wierwille; the error of victor paul wierwille; or the ideology of victor paul wierwille. I do not, in this context, mean the corporate entity that is TWI. I was never involved with that. I was sucked into an orbit of destruction generated by a handful of sycophants, devotees and apologists of VPW. These people were, in fact, card-carrying members and lovers of the corporation at one time. These people abandoned the corporation, like so many, in the late 1980s. But they remained committed to VPW, as they have been since joining CORPS in the late 1970s.

Will you?