Nathan_Jr

Are there charts? Charts, please. Charts made by the Art Department, please.

And it's sufficiently, precisely, accurately called serial monogamy. It's only misleading if you don't understand what it means. No need to make up new terms, because it won't be helpful. Use a dictionary. (1) Single; Eligible; Unmarried (2) Monogamy (3) Polygamy They aren't sloppy at all. They may only be unclear to you. They really aren't misleading. Use a dictionary.

Right. Research does not mean re-search. At least, it hasn't meant that for a few hundred years. You can, contrary to what victor paul wierwille claims, go beyond what you've been taught. Far beyond.

So much devil spirit, so little God.

Right

I wonder what his mom and brothers called him? The letter J did not exist in the 1st century. So much for getting back to the original. Bless his little heart....

A case could be made that polygamy requires more commitment. More wives, more commitment. I don’t think victor paul wierwille would have been willing to be bothered with that level of commitment and responsibility. One wife and a bowl of Quaaludes for the girls is easier and cheaper.

Right. I suspected that’s what you meant. Yeah, baseball, apple pie, Delta blues, divorce — Americana. What a thought experiment. I don’t think polygamy would have curtailed his predation or his craving for power, control and young leg. If polygamy was the norm, victor paul wierwille would practice monogamous marriage as a display of novel contrarianism.

I can’t even do it in series. Or else, I’m unwilling. At this moment, I don’t beleeeve in marriage for myself. Not even one at a time. What was the legislation?

Sorry. Apology = defense. Defense of the priest doing the child focking. I know I couldn’t support the needs and desires of more than one wife. I don’t know how those men do it. I marvel.

A vile word. There’s at least one charismatic catholic posting here who apologizes for child rape and pedophilia in the church by euphemistically calling it a “sodomitic session.” I wonder how victor paul wierwille and his grads would counsel a victim of pedophilia or child rape? Would they say, If it’s done in love…

The kissing starts at 6:25

Ha ha!! Maybe! Or maybe I just Ike the word and am trying to MAKE it fit like a hand in a glove so I can feel cooler about my fantastical self than I actually am as I get older.

Ok. I get it now. Yeah, and SBF. Gross. That’s another fraudster who could have stood on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille. I wasn’t a part of a polycule like SBF and FTX. I was thinking more simply: A is dating B and C, but B and C are not dating, and all three are friends. Something like that. Maybe that’s not a polycule.

Had to look up polycule. I like the word, but I doubt the concept is novel. I may have been a constituent to a polycule or two in my twenties - should think about that some more. Had to look up Borg Cube, too.... still don't get it.

When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like my twig fellowship built on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille. Polyamorous relationships are difficult to grasp, because of jealousy. Jealousy has no place in such a relationship. I don't know anyone in a polyamorous relationship. They might only exist in the imagination.

I don't know if he was a polygamist, but it wouldn't surprise me if he admired, even envied, polygamist cults. Polyamory might be more accurate, but that implies love, so that's out... I think he just really liked bonking women who would otherwise be out of his league, if it weren't for the manipulative, controlling cult he established. To me, it seems to be about entitlement. Not just all women belong to the king, but all everything... the money, the cigarettes, the attention, the devotion, the blind allegiance, the freedom, the power, the whimsical, nonsensical interpretations....

Think series. Serial monogamy is accurate. Most people are in one monogamous relationship after another. Serial polygamy? A stretch, but theoretically possible. I can conceive of it. I wonder if it's ever happened.

Good point. Jesus was a mere bastard Jew who couldn't even speak in tongues. Victor paul wierwille "taught" me that. Such wicked, spiritual stupidity! But Mike nor victor nor TWI are being misrepresented here. Anyone asserting fantasy as fact and leading those who seek God astray are surprised to be mocked, as they inhabit deep delusion and denial.

It's only iniquity if you believe it is. victor paul wierwille "taught" me that.

Amen.

Here’s yet another take. I don’t know if it’s “balanced” (whatever that means!), but it’s certainly perceptive and aware and insightful and accurate. What more could one ask of the historical record? It was so bad it took a FREAKING REASEARCH PAPER to call it out. Wow. Mmmmph. Mmmmm, MMMPH!!

When you distill these deep reasons to their essence, you will find that essence to be the imitation of and the standing on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille.

…by people standing on the shoulders of and imitating victor paul wierwille. Until you acknowledge this, your “balanced history” will only ever be propaganda.