Nathan_Jr

I think T-Bone's post sufficiently rightly divides the sin simplification concept. I might take his treatment a step further to consider replacing SHOULD with WOULD.

It sounds like you don't get it. Please read WordWolf's post on who your neighbor is.

1974 or 1975. I would estimate he's sat through that "class" 75 times, or more. He left in 1986, so I beleeve he missed the homo purge, which he would have enthusiastically supported with jackboots on. No one loves to hate gays more than my twig commander. Ever see American Beauty? Kinda like the Chris Cooper character, except hippy. If you want to understand the concept of sin simplification by way of the greatest commandment, read T-Bone's post up thread. If you want to learn more about the greatest commandment, who your neighbor is, read WordWolf's response to me up thread. I recommend both T-Bone's and WordWolf's posts on this topic as essential reading.

No. I just think it's interesting how important the Romans and the Roman Empire were to the spread of Christianity.

Ok. Maybe anti-Semitic or anti-Hebrew more accurate?

Exactly. Thank you.

I think your opinion is probably right on accurate about this. It's all (without exception or distinction) about the money.

Interesting. Doesn't Paul salute a Herodian at the end of Romans? A case could be made that most of the NT is written from a pro-Roman and anti-Jewish perspective. A curious irony.

That's right. And the second is LIKE the first -- Loving your neighbor as yourself is LIKE loving God. They seem to me to fit together seamlessly, reflexively, like a hand in a... One must find out for oneself the deep meaning of the two greatest commandments. It's silly for me to explain it. He didn't lay out more than two, and he said the two are like each other. To make a hard distinction between the two greatest commandments potentially hinders a higher level of understanding. And notice, he doesn't limit love to your fellowship brother or your fellow twig laborer or the girl that shares your commitment to some guru -- he says your NEIGHBOR, yourself and GOD. There are no contingencies, no numbers by which to paint, no complex, systematic, theological formulations. It's so simple, yet so, so profound. I was taught with great deceptive subtlety by my twig commander to not even waste spit on my neighbor. This twig commander follows the original books and collaterals of victor paul wierwille ONLY. He is unwilling to go beyond what he was taught.

Since day one. The cornerstones of the foundational foundation are selling classes and literature. Everything else is propaganda bullshonta to serve that end. Victor was riding the wave of huckster evangelism when he launched this churchianity enterprise with dollar signs in his eyes. Branham was doing the same, as were many others. He pivoted from a healing ministry to a teaching ministry, because there was more money in the teaching. And the Bible, and salvation, and "spirituality" were the hooks to reel in the dupes.

Thank you

So, the WORD is NOT the ministry? The ministry and victor paul wierwille would disagree. The truth of the ministry, which is the WORD, according to the ministry, must include all the facts of the ministry to know the truth of it.

We're talking past each other, again. When you say greatest commandment, I think of Jesus's explaining of the greatest commandment: love God; and like it, love your neighbor as yourself. What you are talking about, I understand, but please know, your word choice can be confusing for those of us keeping it simple. Please consider an alternate wording of the greatest commandment simplification. Because, what you are talking about is NOT the greatest commandment as revealed by Christ. Maybe sin simplification would be more throughly effectual. I never, ever, believed there were any saint goodydoody types to be found. And I never heard nor considered the guilt trip of being habitually guilty of the greatest sin. That guilt trip was first taught to me and laid on me in the class. My heart isn't desperately evil. Paul wasn't accurate about EVERYTHING. I never heard the guilt trip of falling short of the glory of God, and was never taught I was dead in sins until I took the class. You can't tell me I live my life focused only on my pleasure and not focused on God. You, nor victor, nor the priestly class, nor the clergy, nor Saul of Tarsus, knows anything about me. This is religious, gaslighting dogma that I reject. We can agree to disagree on your religious, doctrinal dogmatism.

I seem to remember the same, and this chest thumping persists today. The logic says this "research" ministry founded by a huckster, and no other, takes the place of the absent Christ. This TWI ministry alone holds the Truth. This is "spiritual elitism" and it is fundamental to the indoctrination, the conditioning. All of this is a lie. If the ministry be not blamed, let it be blameless.

Mmmmph

Dancing Gumby? The renewed mind is the key, moonwalking, viral video with 170M views, dancing Gumby boy? WTAF is this?? .... you don't have to answer

Remember so-called boy bands from the 90s? Backstreet Boys, NSynch, et al.? You know what would be a great name for a boy band in 2022? Specifically, a Christian boy band.... a Christian rockabilly boy band.... a Christian rockabilly boy band specializing in weddings... The ECNs

Yikes!

Didn’t you post a video once?

Hey! I think TWI has one of those!

While your at it, will you please correct them on the errors of four crucified and crowing cocks? There are hundreds of errors that need correcting, but we should take it slowly, to your point.

Ummm…. Gwantchally peeahcherry?

Why would you equate the greatest commandment simplification with sin simplification?

I don't mind if it's mere speculation. Can anyone explain Mike's postulate: Greatest Commandment = sin

You do know OJ was REALLY guilty, right? And those gloves? Those were REALLY his gloves. He just pretended they didn't fit.