Nathan_Jr

He is deeply involved, slowly. How can one know this? Read his writings. But he can only write and you can only read by your five senses, so....you thought wrong.

Mike: TWI-4 is close to doing what you suggest, except the show the film class under very restricted conditions. Nate: WITAF does this mean?!?! Mike: ======= Mike: I have all kinds of suggestions for them on this. One is that they sell a nice boxed set of the PFAL on dvd format. They could include a nice hard-bound transcript and sell the whole thing for $200. I'll bet all the many grads with crumby VHS copies would be happy to get a high quality version of what they already have. Nate: Wait. WTF? After admitting to oodles and oodles of errors in the class, you are recommending repackaging this error laden class and selling it to unsuspecting dupes? With a transcript so they can pull all their hair out sorting the alleged wheat from the obvious chaff? For $200!!! This is the deceiver's game Mike:

No. I don't have the book, either - threw it in the garbage where it belongs. Where is the PDF?

WITAF does this mean?!?! Wait. WTF? After admitting to oodles and oodles of errors in the class, you are recommending repackaging this error laden class and selling it to unsuspecting dupes? With a transcript so they can pull all their hair out sorting the alleged wheat from the obvious chaff? For $200!!! A Steven Seagal film doesn't stop being a Steven Seagal film just because it's been converted from VHS to DVD. Trash is trash, regardless of the format. This is all a sadistic, ridiculous joke. And the ridiculous earns the ridicule. Get behind me, Mike.

If he got it so, so wrong in the class, and the frequency of error is so high, why should anyone expect so much error to miraculously get corrected in a book? Same natural man wrote the class who wrote the book, right? What a jip!

In light of the FACT of the hundreds of errors in the film, why keep pushing it? Why not correct it and improve it? Or why not just throw the whole thing out and only sell books and collaterals?

It actually wasn’t clear. You mostly talked about the oodles of errors in the film that got sanitized for the book without really explaining what he said in the book. I might have missed it. Oodles of words. Will you be concise?

Reduced is not a helpful private interpretation of the Greek as he presented in his film. Agreed. How did he correct his error in the book?

Cards Against Humanity?

So, literally all day and night at church? Sounds exhausting.

What’s the difference between STS and SNS?

Sounds like the problem isn’t a time constraint, it’s him. As he “spiritually matures” and graduates far beyond what he was taught, he will learn to be throughly effectual in the time allowed.

Thanks. Time constraint? What a cop out. (It’s only a constraint if you beleeve it is.) Any limit, including time, can and should foster creativity, efficiency and focus. If it doesn’t, the problem isn’t the limit, it’s the attention on the constraint and not the solution. The adult attention limit is only 45 minutes, or somewhere close. Two hours of holding forth… Yikes!

What is the time constraint? Anyone, please.

Who is the betrayer? Let him find out. Let him cleanse the oil from his head. Let him get humble. Let him get meek. It’s vitally important that he deeply feels this perceived betrayal. It’s essential for him to find out what it means to be betrayed and what it means to be the betrayer.

Never! Don’t do it…. Dooooon’t do it! It could be deadly. You might pass out from boredom and drown.

Right. But it’s not my mention. I was quoting Alexandra Stein from the excellent article Bolshe linked up thread.

If the baby and bath water idiom was available to Jesus, he might have said: If your water is polluted by a rotting corpse, throw out both the filthy water and the rotten corpse that pollutes your water, and fill your tub with fresh water.

From the article: “Stein’s research5 indicates that the closed, fearful world within a cult is designed to promote a relationship of disorganised attachment to the leader or group: a combination of terror and ‘love’ that is used to emotionally trap and cognitively disable followers. All such groups arouse fear by employing a variety of threats – dangers in the outside world, predictions of apocalyptic events, harsh criticism or the threat of exclusion. Fear can also be aroused through emotional and physical means, such as guilt, exhaustion and physical punishment.“ mmmph

It seems so many don’t know how to listen. Too often people listen with a purpose of confirming bias. And the wheels keep spinning, digging deeper into the mud. A closed mind confirming bias is a withered mind.

When you let the Bible interpret itself, it can mean anything you damn well want Or once you achieve “spiritual maturity,” it can say and mean anything you NEED it to say and mean. That’s the beauty of it. That’s the simplicity. Just tremendous!

Talking about Romans earlier reminded me of the error of victor’s exegesis of Romans 13.

Careful, Mike. It's actually NOT a vast misrepresentation of what you wrote. Whether you understand the great commandments together or separate, synthesized or parallel, you miss the mark on understanding because you choose not to go beyond the "spiritual immaturity" of what victor taught. Your grocery store bit is a mark miss. You just don't get it. Victor didn't get it, either. Go back and re-read that grocery store bit together with WordWolf's treatment of Who is Your Neighbor? You keep claiming people misrepresent you here. That simply is not true. It's a lie.

It's actually a relatively short T-Bone post. And the WordWolf post is short, also. You could easily read them while dropping a deuce or eating pistachios.