excathedra

yo mama is so old she has a picture of moses in her yearbook yo mama is so ugly, rice crispies won't even talk to her yo mama is so ugly, when your dad wants to have sex in the car, he tells her to get out yo mama is so stupid, she put lipstick on her forehead because she wanted to makeup her mind yo mama is so stupid, she thinks sexual battery is something in a dildo yo mama is so stupid, she sent me a fax with a stamp on it

Jesse written by Janis Ian arranged by Joan Baez Jesse come home, there's a hole in the bed Where we slept; now it's growing cold. Jesse your face, in the place where we lay By the hearth, all apart, it hangs on my heart And I'm leaving the light on the stairs No I'm not scared; I wait for you Hey Jesse, it's lonely, come home. Jesse the stairs in the halls, recalling Your step; and I remember too. All the pictures are shaded and fading in grey And I still set a place on the table at noon And I'm leaving the light on the stairs No I'm not scared; I wait for you Hey Jesse, it's lonely, come home. Jesse the spread on the bed, It's like when you left, I kept it for you. All the blues and the greens have been recently cleaned And are seemingly new; hey Jess, me and you. We'll swallow the light on the stairs I'll fix up my hair, we'll sleep unawares Hey Jesse, it's lonely, come home

I Can't Make You Love Me -- Bonnie Raitt Turn down the lights, turn down the bed Turn down these voices inside my head Lay down with me, tell me no lies Just hold me close, don't patronize - don't patronize me Cause I can't make you love me if you don't You can't make your heart feel something it won't Here in the dark, in these lonely hours I will lay down my heart and I'll feel the power But you won't, no you won't 'Cause I can't make you love me, if you don't I'll close my eyes, then I won't see The love you don't feel when you're holding me Morning will come and I'll do what's right Just give me till then to give up this fight And I will give up this fight Cause I can't make you love me if you don't You can't make your heart feel something it won't Here in the dark, in these lonely hours I will lay down my heart and I'll feel the power But you won't, no you won't 'Cause I can't make you love me, if you don't

Superman ...Five For Fighting I can?t stand to fly I?m not that naive I?m just out to find The better part of me I?m more than a bird...I?m more than a plane More than some pretty face beside a train It?s not easy to be me Wish that I could cry Fall upon my knees Find a way to lie About a home I?ll never see It may sound absurd...but don?t be naive Even Heroes have the right to bleed I may be disturbed...but won?t you conceed Even Heroes have the right to dream It?s not easy to be me Up, up and away...away from me It?s all right...You can all sleep sound tonight I?m not crazy...or anything I can?t stand to fly I?m not that naive Men weren?t meant to ride With clouds between their knees I?m only a man in a silly red sheet Digging for kryptonite on this one way street Only a man in a funny red sheet Looking for special things inside of me...inside of me It?s not easy to be me.

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here it LISTS your edits (it doesn't just change the time like the old place) so it would look something like [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 4, 2002 at 1:32] [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 7, 2002 at 2:32] [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 10, 2002 at 3:32] [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 13, 2002 at 4:32] [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 16, 2002 at 5:32] [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 19, 2002 at 6:32] [this message was edited by gladys kravitz on July 22, 2002 at 7:32] how embarrassing

is anyone copying or archiving this dang ?

WHAT!!! you are not going to spoon-feed us we need MILK not MEAT ha ha ha ha ha ha love you

jack dang has he joined our tribe yet ?

in my case, having a child gave me the opportunity to expand my horizons in such a way i can't describe. it's like i found myself in one sense but i know what you mean, Z. i am only talking about me -- not speaking for or about anyone else. i don't think we have to put down anyone, with / without children / in order to be ourselves (not saying you did this) and for the pain inflicted on people for having none, one, or too many, i wish people could mind their own business love,

sherlock

i don't give a dang

it is so easy to follow a poster around, this should be a nice tradeoff for being able to edit. posters can be reproved (in love) immediately liberty and justice for all

are you pulling my leg ?

excellent!! question: where did that little thingy go that says how many members there are i was enjoying watching your tribe increase

i see, june 9th (i adore these new profiles) happy birthday!!!!!

for the info btw, you have the sweetest little face i just practiced editing this

what are the current limitations satori ?

why in the world did you get all 3 a vasectomy ? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha yes happy everything to everyone i can't believe the sheet people make people feel sheety about i hope heaven is a nice place

thank you garth and gingie and wacky i'm starting a thread in a minute because of this thread and i too want to say how beautiful i find your rose edited: well, actually, i'm not starting a thread because of this one, i'm starting a thread because of gingie [This message was edited by excathedra on June 16, 2002 at 12:42.]

i agree there is no wrong and right timing and place when feelings come out. i know that too well. i think the way you expressed it, wacky, may have come across like there are so many parents who are sorry they had children so this is good not to have children to be happy in your own life is wonderful, honest, but i took how you said it differently -- so many bad things about parents and how they feel about their children. i just wanted to speak as a parent and how i feel wacky and hopeful and anyone else, i have never thought about a person being good or bad based on whether or not they are married or have children the person's heart is what shines through and -- for me -- ginger's heart is pure gold love, ex

i found this thread unusual especially on father's day. when i read it, i thought about the greatest miracle God ever gave me in my life is my child. i have always always wanted children. i wanted many children, but because of the way things worked out with the way ministry and my age, i have one. but i am so so so grateful i can't even express it. i have tears in my eyes just thinking about how lucky i am. ** one person who did more for me than almost anyone was my great aunt. she was more than a grandmother to me. she never married and had no children. growing up i spent many weeks in the summer with her. she loved me so much my heart still aches. she always always admired my mother and said, "i don't know how your mother does it, she is a saint." i miss my great aunt terribly. i promised her i would take care of her when she got old and i didn't do it, another way thing. too painful. ** if you can help nurture children who have parents that are messed up, what a great gift. there are so many that need role models. ** i do treasure paw and mstar and pam (i'm sorry i have to go back to read who else is mentioned).

from the National Fatherhood Initiative Spend Time With Your Children How a father spends his time tells his children what's important to him. If you always seem too busy for your children, they will feel neglected no matter what you say. Treasuring children often means sacrificing other things, but it is essential to spend time with your children. Kids grow up so quickly. Missed opportunities are lost forever. Earn The Right To Be Heard All too often the only time a father speaks to his children is when they have done something wrong. That's why so many children cringe when their mother says, "Your father wants to talk with you." Begin talking with your kids when they are very young so that difficult subjects will be easier to handle as they get older. Take time and listen to their ideas and problems. Discipline With Love All children need guidance and discipline, not as punishment, but to set reasonable limits. Remind your children of the consequences of their actions and provide meaningful rewards for desirable behavior. Fathers who discipline in a calm and fair manner show love for their children. Be a Role Model Fathers are role models to their kids, whether they realize it or not. A girl who spends time with a loving father grows up knowing she deserves to be treated with respect by boys, and what to look for in a husband. Fathers can teach sons what is important in life by demonstrating honesty, humility and responsibility. Be a Teacher Too many fathers think teaching is something others do. But a father who teaches his children about right and wrong, and encourages them to do their best, will see his children make good choices. Involved fathers use everyday examples to help their children learn the basic lessons of life. Eat Together as a Family Sharing a meal together (breakfast, lunch or dinner) can be an important part of healthy family life. In addition to providing some structure in a busy day, it gives kids the chance to talk about what they are doing and want to do. It is also a good time for fathers to listen and give advice. Most importantly, it is a time for families to be together each day. Read to Your Children In a world where television often dominates the lives of children, it is important that fathers make the effort to read to their children. Children learn best by doing and reading, as well as seeing and hearing. Begin reading to your children when they are very young. When they are older, encourage them to read on their own. Instilling your children with a love for reading is one of the best ways to ensure they will have a lifetime of personal and career growth. Show Affection Children need the security that comes from knowing they are wanted, accepted and loved by their family. Parents, especially fathers, need to feel both comfortable and willing to hug their children. Showing affection every day is the best way to let your children know that you love them. Respect Your Children's Mother One of the best things a father can do for his children is to respect their mother. If you are married, keep your marriage strong and vital. If you're not married, it is still important to respect and support the mother of your children. A father and mother who respect each other, and let their children know it, provide a secure environment for them. When children see their parents respecting each other, they are more likely to feel that they are also accepted and respected. Realize That A Father's Job Is Never Done Even after children are grown and ready to leave home, they will still look to their fathers for wisdom and advice. Whether it's continued schooling, a new job or a wedding, fathers continue to play an essential part in the lives of their children as they grow and, perhaps, marry and build their own families. ** Happy Father's Day Dads!

my "time" preference changed from where i set it and now i can't seem to find that choice again - choo choo