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Allan's thinking I believe is exactly what 1 Thessolonians 4 is addressing in part. That the dead and asleep and others which have no hope God will bring with him. One can have no hope and be without God for a variety of reasons. Not being taught correctly like so many that want to separate and divide. How many religions and people claim this? that others will not have eternal life? Mainly ignorance which is directly addressed by the Word of the Lord. To those who have ears to hear and eyes to see it.

you want to clarify that allan? lol.... what appears to be...yeah that's right since you know what's "half quoted" you must know what is not yeah..you could even start your own thread or religion or doomsday machine

Hi bliss, Yes I believe all is paid for. The goodness of God. The future with our God in Christ will leave this present heavens and earth into the new. All will be dissolved for us all with it's fervent heat as Peter says. What the results will be is not my call, and I do believe that rightousness will somehow be rewarded. Don't know how it will all work out. I'm sorry I don't know it all but as we question and search we grow and just be ourselves with all the love that is in us and shoot, I don't worry about it. I have enough confidence that no one will miss out on what He has in store for us. Love

lol dmiller... Did it play? our minds can see many things, God is a Fire And to lighten up the thread. Context? lol..I don't care, it was just for entertainment. And I like the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzlspzYfN3s...elmo%27s%20fire

if you want me to read the scriptures to you allan, do you also want me to show you what they say? you seem to be telling me what they say, i know what they say and those that can read know too quit being such a baby i'm more honest then you will probably ever see

All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath

Coffee pots that shut off in 2 hours. I just spent all day installing a garage door opener. 60 minutes install time it said on the box!!!!???? And weather people who can't predict the weather! Rechargeable batteries that only last for an hour!!!

You know I wonder...... How many people would have stayed in pfal and twi if pfal started with these verses.... 26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: It's just as true as John 10:10. I count on the knowledge that I know we have of the scriptures here at Greasespot. Not the interpretations according to twi, but what is written. Because understanding can grow and there is life in those Words. Perhaps that's why I leave somethings out because whatever was good is still there. And there is life in the Words of many who speak here.....

I'll try to clarify on what I mentioned earlier.... There is more to the coming and ressurection then I previously believed. I put it out for consideration that it can happen now while we are living here and now. And I've said this in more then one thread. That does not negate the coming after physical death in anyway but makes it bigger. John himself said "even so Lord come". Those people in Acts had something that I had not seen in my own life. And I knew I didn't have what they had. Therefore I had to undo somethings I had previously been taught, things that were obviously not right to me. Then I could look and search for other possibilities. And I found some or it found me, but there was ACTion that I had never experienced before. And not as I expected, but even more. And it's not that I've learned more, but it's more that I've learned how to learn. I've learned there is a lot more then I previously believed. I learned that there is a lot more that I don't know. All over the epistles it talks about death to life. It is talking about now I believe mostly. What Jesus did was real. What Christ did in him was real. Why, How and What makes this Comforter, this Holy Spirit so much more powerful and accessable to men and women. Jesus the Christ had to die to bring forth the greater baptism, the greater God in the Heart, the greater Christ in the mind. Paul was many years with the disciples to work out his salvation. But he started preaching Christ right off the bat. And he didn't know everything from the start or even unto the end of his life in the flesh. That's about as general as I want to put it at this time. And as much as I can say and communicate on this board. Our God is not limited to any one religion or no religion. He is real and alive and within. And in the air. It is where His home is in every person that is on the planet or been on the planet or is going to be on the planet. Not one soul will miss out on eternal life.....and I'm crying as I say this because it's the truth. God will not back down off of His Word. We are to be the Word One in Him. One in Christ. And it happens daily with many and all are not at the same place of understanding. This is why Love is the GREATEST as it says in Corinthians. It is the most important thing.It is God. God is Love and Love is God and it's in each and every one of us and will not leave us ever! It is our very being and each person will have their eyes open to this in God's time and in your life. Physical death has been defeated. There is hell to face when the old carnal man burns and the new man emerges to be seen and realized for the first time. It is personal and it is real and Love is the ONLY thing that will see you through it and you will overcome.

you are way off topic allan you are saying this so it must be you promoting it

yeah, allan jesus got angered too, and what you think is quick, isn't Goey, did what i could...rock on...

Well that was more work then posting! lol! If you use the quick edit you can go back farther.

aaawww I don't know Goey, we could just let it be and just drop it like it didn't happen. I love forgiveness, it's such a clearing house in the mind. Besides like Danny said there is a lot to learn from our communications. So perhaps it could help others who would have the same difficulties. Peace, Clay i'll edit what i can

Apology accepted.

Hi Danny, Thanks I've asked the moderaters to delete this whole thread. Someone not understanding could actually hurt them I think. And that is not what i want at all. Love back to You

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Goey, I never said this at all. You are not understanding what I'm saying. There is more to the coming and ressurection then I previously believed. I put it out for consideration that it can happen now while we are living here and now. And I've said this in more then one thread. That does not negate the coming after physical death in anyway but makes it bigger. John himself said "even so Lord come".

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means what you said don't bother me

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Please see edits. if any one is watching this as we speak. Thank you.

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I never said that. I was answering your PM.