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Gary Oldman The Professional Natalie Portman

"Oh can't you see, you belong to me? How my poor heart aches with every step you take." "Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace. I dream at night, I can only see your face. I look around, but it's you I can't replace. I feel so cold, and I long for your embrace. I keep crying, "Baby, baby, please..." "

I'm not, but if I post the answer, I'm expected to either take the next turn, or encourage someone else to take it. With this particular thread, I'm not feeling either.

Was " Left Behind" remade? (I heard TRHPS was, thus my previous guess.)

Correct. It's Mrs Bean's turn- unless she yields her turn to Mister Human w/o Bean.

Love God a lot, and Love your neighbor like you love yourself. Think, feel, and act accordingly, and all the rules stemmed from that. vpw liked to TALK like that, but he neither thought, felt, nor acted accordingly. That's why there's a GSC.

A lot of memories of twi history can be found on the "Eyewitnesses" threads. 1953-1966 didn't have much info... https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8329-eyewitnessestwi-from-1953-1966your-stories/#comment-198641 1966-1975 had more. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8336-eyewitnessestwi-from-1966-1975your-stories/#comment-198833 1976 was a big year in twi history. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8380-eyewitnessestwi-1976your-stories/#comment-199672 1977-1980 was next. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8472-eyewitnesses1977-to-1980-your-stories/#comment-201347 As was 1981-1984. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8530-eyewitnesses1981-1984your-stories/#comment-202407 1985 was also a big year for twi. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8699-eyewitnessestwi-1985your-stories/#comment-205956 1986-1988 was "the fog years." https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8732-eyewitnessestwi-1986-1988your-stories/#comment-206746 1989-1992 covered the line in the sand, the big exodus, and what came later. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8818-eyewitnesses-1989-1992-your-stories/#comment-209054

Some memories of the ROA can be found on the thread, "Memories of the ROA."

Was this "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"? I know there was at least 1 sequel to the original - "Shock Treatment."

A) Yes, we were taught to be jerks in twi. B) The closer in you were in twi, the more you were taught this (by example and by lecture.) C) Some of us, post-twi, have tried to learn better behavior since leaving. D) Some of us, post-twi, haven't tried very hard (generally, those who insist there were no real problems under vpw._ E) vpw, among other things, was a self-professed "expert" at all sorts of things that he didn't understand as much as he claimed to, and as much as he believed. F) vpw taught, by example, and others he taught, passed along ALSO by example, to be a self-professed "expert" at all sorts of things. (The closer in you were in twi, the more you learned this.) G) Some of us have tried to unlearn that since leaving twi, some of us have not.

Sorry for prying, but if you'd indulge me for a moment.... ...When you went to the doctor, what was the treatment? Was it an antibiotic administered orally? Was it ear drops of some kind? Both? Something else? I'm just curious what a REAL doctor prescribed, and whether or not it worked (from the context, it seemed to have worked, but you didn't say so outright.) I'm not against the idea of trying some herbal remedies and so on for MINOR problems, although I'm certainly not familiar with most of them. HOWEVER, when it gets to significant PAIN, that's when you head to the doctor and get medical treatment. A "VERY PAINFUL EAR INFECTION" will not respond MUCH to some herbal treatments. Skipping a doctor to treat a "VERY PAINFUL EAR INFECTION" with "a clove of garlic in his ear" sounds a lot more like voodoo than any treatment (just put the tail of the lizard in his ear, recite this chant, then apply the sacred oil to his chest. Repeat this every hour.) For those who don't know, the idea behind the term "third aid" was that FIRST you pray, and SECOND you ask someone else to pray, and THIRD you seek medical treatment. To have gone through those steps and still not get past an herbal treatment is silly. That could have been done during step one. Locally, when someone explained the concept "third aid" to me, he also said that he and his wife didn't wait between steps. If she had a headache, she'd pray for the aspirin while taking it. I'd do so as well, and thank God for smart chemists who designed the medications. People like the ones in the article above would, no doubt, criticize me for my pragmatic position. They'd insist I had to FORGO all medical treatments and rely completely on divine healing. Yeah, whatever. I'm not taking criticisms like that from anyone who isn't getting results like they're claiming. If they normally are getting divine healing for serious injuries, serious illnesses, and instant recoveries upon getting to "amen", then, yes, I'll take the criticism. I'll also take notes because I want to know what you're doing right so I can get similar results. Until then, I'll pray while following sensible medical practices. I'm quite happy with the results I'm getting.

The most obvious things about that being plagiarism- besides comparing them side-by-side..... A) Outside of this sentence plagiarizing Stiles, vpw NEVER used the phrase "faith-blasters." He never used that term. B) That phrase doesn't fit vpw's schema. As Raf has pointed out before, vpw, had he used that expression at all, would have named those people "BELIEVING-blasters", as fit his deprecation of the term "faith" in general other than the phrase "faith of Jesus Christ".

"Well, I don't know why I came here tonight. I got the feeling that something ain't right."

"Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace. I dream at night, I can only see your face. I look around, but it's you I can't replace. I feel so cold, and I long for your embrace. I keep crying, "Baby, baby, please..." "

Madonna Evita Antonio Banderas

Once I had the next 2 words, I recognized the line and song. This is Cyndi Lauper's "Girls Just Want to Have Fun." (First hit off of her debut album, "She's So Unusual." We heartily agreed! )

Off-topic- another example of how much Jack Kirby made up for both DC and Marvel.... Bruno Mannheim and Intergang were both Kirby creations.

Ever wonder what it's like to live and work on a luxury yacht during the yachting season? No? Well, too bad- we're putting out 4 different series on the subject, all by the same company so they aren't in competition with each other, and all the same base name so you can see they're related shows. What's the name of any of the shows? (Bragging rights for anyone who can correctly name all 4.) The Spanish name for this show is "Under Cover." These shows are produced under Bravo, but are in syndication in a number of channels around the world, including streaming services.

I'm thinking you're imagining this is a scripted show dramatizing life on a boat. Allegedly, this is more documentary or docudrama, meant to film the real thing or depict it as it happens. (I think it's not REALLY the actual events, but possibly a reenactment of what happened, acted out so it could be filmed. This happens with some "reality" shows.)

She's so unusual!

Dick Shawn It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World Peter Falk

Ever wonder what it's like to live and work on a luxury yacht during the yachting season? No? Well, too bad- we're putting out 4 different series on the subject, all by the same company so they aren't in competition with each other, and all the same base name so you can see they're related shows. What's the name of any of the shows? (Bragging rights for anyone who can correctly name all 4.) The Spanish name for this show is "Under Cover."

One thing about mathematics is that it is not studied in the real world, it's studied in the imaginary world of numbers. (Don't believe me? Then demonstrate the square root of negative 1.) Physics, chemistry, and biology all take place in the real world (with some calculations), and are subject to reality ruining experiments and so on. Since math exists separate from reality, there's no "sampling error" or anything like that to interfere. There's some ideas that float around some intellectuals that math and theoretical physics (the imagining stuff) are SUPERIOR to science you can encounter in your life because they are "pure". Personally, I consider the obverse to be true- that the science we actually USE to be superior than imaginings that may never go anywhere for us. But, that's all OPINIONS about existing areas of study. Naturally, there's all sorts of perspectives, opinions, and biases. So, mathematics can be exact because it is conceptual and is a manipulation of ideas. Interestingly enough, we can discuss ideas of God and so on, with about as much relevance to the world we live in (and arguably as much importance.) But, that's all ideas, and not relevant when discussing our lives and any experience. Philosophers have certainly done so for millenia and have drawn a comfortable paycheck doing so. Likewise, there's been any number of theologians (self-appointed and otherwise) who have drawn such a comfortable paycheck, vpw included. So, coming back to the thread's subject..... vpw wanted a living where he could tell people what to do AND draw a handsome paycheck doing so, preferably one with little labor and lots of job security. So, he considered entertainment and business management, and put them aside to go into religion. (It's been argued that he went into all 3, eventually.) When vpw finally got encountered the hippies (once they existed), he put on his full act, and convinced them that he was some great one, and got them to respect him under the premise that he studied about God and taught about God. Once he had them hooked, he slowly reeled them in more and more, and was bossy and authoritative around them in private, turning into a tyrant when it was REALLY private. He taught his inner circle to imitate him, and they taught others to imitate them. So, in twi, there was considerable education to be a jerk and to be bossy, depending on where you were in the group and what year it was. Oddly enough, your chances of escaping jerk training were worse AFTER vpw died. BEFORE he died, you had to be on-grounds somewhere (a "root locale") to get the training, since he kept it close at hand. After vpw died, a few years later, a lot of things were coming to light, and lcm decided to be twice the jerk and boss that vpw was rather than try and address any of the problems. So, lcm demanded an oath of loyalty to follow him blindly (when someone asked him directly, he confirmed this.) The immediate result was a refusal of most of the leadership in the US refusing to do so- resulting in lcm firing all of them- resulting in 80% of the twi rank-and-file leaving WITH them all in one year. What was left in twi was the 20% most likely to follow lcm off of a cliff- and all the moderating influences were gone. So, the jerk training was spread across twi with nobody putting the brakes on it locally any more. (Seriously, in the Bronx, when twi sent someone bossy, they were treated courteously to their faces, and ignored most of the time, until they left and were promptly forgotten. Yes, EL, I'm thinking of you here.) When lcm pulled his power play and canned ALL the NY leadership we respected- and I mean ALL, the only ones left were respected by family but not rank-and-file otherwise- we left with them. They had earned our respect, lcm had not. (As a sign of how empty we left twi at the time, I could have jumped from "local chair-warmer" to "branch coordinator" when it was all done. If I had been older, I might have had a shot at grabbing "territory coordinator" = which WAS grabbed by someone who went from "local chair-warmer" to "territory coordinator". I know because he'd warmed a chair next to mine from time to time. ) So, yes, jerk-training was a thing at twi- and all indications are that it still is. This leopard has not changed his spots.

Same artist, different song. "Since you've gone I been lost without a trace. I dream at night, I can only see your face."

His phrase was "with a mathematical exactness and with a scientific precision."