WordWolf

Next song, if this will save tonight.... "It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside. I'm not one of those who can easily hide. I don't have much money, but boy if I did, I'd buy a big house where we both could live."

It gets worse when you see the twisting involved to try to make this nonsense apply after that. In Genesis 3, Man has sinned and lost spirit. God communicates with him without any problems, making a voice (the first mention of the word "voice" in Genesis, the first time an audible sound is actually needed.) God can communicate any way He wants to -He is God. Makes the Universe, organizes the stars, fine-tunes details for the Earth, the biosphere, the plants, the animals, the humans. Communicate with something that isn't spirit? Sorry, too difficult! What is this nonsense? Anyway, then we get nonsense like Balaam's donkey had to have spirit upon him. Why can't God ALMIGHTY use a bit of that ALL MIGHT and make a miracle where a donkey briefly can talk and reason as a donkey? We also get the incident of "the writing on the wall". The Babylonian smart people couldn't make sense of it. So, according to vpw, it was "written in spirit" (WHAT? SINCE WHEN? ONLY HAPPENS HERE IN ALL OF SCRIPTURE) which is why they couldn't understand the writing. Couldn't possibly have another explanation, something more simple. FF Bruce had already explained that decades before. Somebody (like vpw) who was poor with languages couldn't even imagine it was a mundane TRANSLATION problem. The writing, if read in ONE language, was "weighed, numbered, divided"- and the specifics of what was weighed, numbered and divided was not provided- there you needed revelation. Read in Babylonian, and the writing- missing vowels like it did made it easy to mistake ONE language for the OTHER- and it read something like "a dollar, a quarter and change" (I'm paraphrasing, but it would have been a money denomination, a smaller one, and something like spare change.) Not terribly hard to understand the confusion when trying to make sense of something when reading it in the wrong language. Anybody who wants to discuss incidents of confusing language should probably start a new thread in Humor, or possibly Open. So, having to distort all sorts of incidents to try to make this silly explanation work is far too much work, and it's unproductive work because it makes one MORE confused, not less.

"Cosmic Thing"s 2 big hits got a LOT of airtime when that album came out. (3 hits? "Roam", "Love Shack", "Deadbeat Club" is 3 hits if that's all 1 album.)

If George drops a hint, I might think of something, and hopefully I can post after midnight my time this morning.

I grew up knowing a Linda, and Julieta is actually not uncommon in Argentina.

Doesn't ring a bell for me.

"Try, try, try to separate them, it's an illusion. Try and you will only come, to this conclusion." (Was unable to save this last night, sorry)

Anyone notice that "The Great Principle" was based on something that CHANGED? "God is Spirit, and God can only give what He is- which is Spirit." "God is Spirit, and God can only communicate with Spirit." Wherever he plagiarized those from, it's obvious he didn't UNDERSTAND them since they contradict so obviously when he phrases them. "God gave manna. God is NOT manna." So, the first statement is BLATANTLY wrong. If the second is supposedly true because spirit only communicates with spirit, then eventually there is a disconnect. "God, who is Spirit, teaches His creation in you, which is now your spirit, and your spirit teaches your mind. Then it becomes manifested in the senses world as you act." Well, how did my spirit teach my mind? Spirit communicated with not-spirit there. Is my spirit more capable than God Almighty, who IS Spirit?

You forgot Dean Martin was in that movie? He and Sammy Davis Jr were dressed as 2 priests driving a red Ferrari. "Pull over! We want to give you our blessing!" Terry Bradshaw was one of the drivers for the pick-up truck, the one that got re-painted to try to bypass roadblocks, and landed in a pool. The also prepped for the race by packing case after case of beer- and 1 bag of chips for food. Rick Aviles was the one who drove into the HOTEL LOBBY and did the Nixon imitation when asked about it. Also, he jumped the railroad cars and survived because he reached the moving train at a flatbed. "Evel Kneivel, you've got yourself some competition!" "I'm telling you, if the cameras had been there, we would have made CBS Sports Spectacular!" "What-you want to do it again?" He was also conspicuous in the fight with the bikers. "Man, you wouldn't last FIVE MINUTES in a New York Subway!" *smashes biker in shin with block of wood* *smashes back of biker's head, knocking him out* "That's how it's done!"

Doctor Strange Rachel Mac Adams Sherlock Holmes- Game of Shadows

I had posted the song in the wrong thread. By the time I'd re-posted it and deleted it from the wrong thread, you'd already replied. I left a note about it on the other thread. Meanwhile, I'm all set- I've brought my jukebox money!

That's it. All 3 were drivers for different vehicles.

Dean Martin Rick Aviles Terry Bradshaw

Since this was the wrong thread, I'd already moved it to the right thread- but you can reply there since I just pasted it there. :)

"Try, try, try to separate them, it's an illusion."

Next song. "Cold late night so long ago when I was not so strong you know, a pretty man came to me, never seen eyes so blue. You know, I could not run away. It seemed we'd seen each other in a dream. It seemed like he knew me. He looked right through me, yeah."

(wrong thread)

"Logan's Run" derail.... I read the book a long time ago. In the movie, the age limit for people was set at 30, in the book it was set at 21 years old. The idea was that, in the future, the high birth rate (which, really, was addressable directly) meant that the Earth would be completely overrun by people, so each person's age limit was set universally at 21 years old. There were no families. You were born into some sort of structure, and your hand had a device called a "lifeflower" implanted and visible at all times. It had the record of exactly how old you were. From ages 0-7, the "lifeflower" gem was yellow. From ages 7-14, the gem was blue. From 14-21, the gem was red. When you reached within 24 hours of your 21st birthday, the gem began BLINKING- on was red, off was black. You were on Last Day. For Last Day, you tended to get special privileges here and there- anyone could see it was your last day- but you also had 24 hours to report in to some sort of extermination facility. If you failed to report in within 24 hours, your "lifeflower" gem turned black, and an alert went off in the central computer system. Then you were considered a "runner" who had "rejected sleep." Now, the authorities sent their agents to recover you- the DS men, aka "sandmen." Sandmen on duty wore grey uniforms, and people knew to let them pass. They carried revolvers, and each of the 6 chambers had a different specialized bullet loaded (a Sandman could reload, obviously.) There were bullets like Tangler (fired a capture web, useful if you might hit a civilian), Needler, Ripper, Vapor (gas cloud- Sandmen put on nose filters when firing those), Nitro (an explosive) and the dreaded Homer (a heat-seeking bullet, useful in the open, and much feared by the populace "You can't get away from a Homer." ) In this setting, there was an advanced society, and there were a few people lived outside it- like almost-feral gangs of children -"cubs"- who supposedly committed suicide sometime before their Last Day and didn't include any Reds in their number. There were legends that people COULD live much longer, and that supposedly there was a place where they could live out full lives- "Sanctuary." The title character, Logan 5, was a Sandman. Since the last person didn't explain what drives the story, I'll leave that vague as well, to avoid spoilers. You can pm me for as much information as you want.

This rings a bell in an odd way. "DAVID NAUGHTON???"

Thaddeus Bodog Sivana! That was the main villain in "Shazam!" Oh, the actor? Um, something Strong. Mark Strong?

I know Lord Badasss, demon hunter, is summoned whenever this song is played backwards. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/badasss/4005-29120/ When The Badger needed him summoned, they wondered what "the worst song in the universe" could be- but The Badger immediately claimed that Ham (the weather wizard) had it, and dug out his copy of "Red Sovine's Trucking Music." He began playing it backwards, saying it could only improve the song. Sure enough, a few lines into "RAEB YDDET", the demon hunter appeared and saved the day. Amazingly, back in ancient Babylon, they recited this exact same song to summon him! Personally, I think this song deserves better than THAT. It's not one of the greatest, but it's a nice song.

I sometimes find it fascinating that things that DON'T make sense often had a list of verses appended to them, supposedly to document them, but never actually gone over to make the point. The list wasn't there to answer questions, the list was to BLUFF. Supposedly, if you had doubts, and there's a supposed STACK of verses saying the opposite of what you're saying, the problem is you. Nobody ever actually read through the lists to see if they RELATED. (Some "keys to walking by the spirit" had lists like that after them, never discussed.) The standard procedure- begun by vpw- was to expound upon a rambling set of analogies and anecdotes, then go fast over some verses that SUPPOSEDLY made the point, go somewhere else with the verses, then act like everything was answered just then.

[lcm had this thing about walking around and having passing thoughts- then making big announcements about his passing thoughts because he was getting super-revelation just like vpw did! One thing he said after one such walk was "The Word is over the world!" (right after twi lost over 80% of its people- NOW it was MOST successful in spreading "The Word" and had spread it furthest!) Another thing he said after another such walk was "Owe no man nothing, save to love one another" meant all twi'ers were supposed to remove all debt from their lives and keep it that way. Both times, other people were tasked to defend his offhand comments, and claim they actually made sense when they actually did not. (No, I'm referring to lcm, not anyone unrelated to twi.) In the case of debt, people came forth with wise explanations from Scripture and wise explanations from financial experts as to why this didn't work. But no, lcm said it, so now twi was STUCK with it- and kicked people out of programs and off grounds because of it, depending on their specifics. ]

My submitted replies seem to be submitting. Perhaps the problem was fixed. (Then again, I did another incremental upgrade of my browser, so perhaps that did it. Either way, it's working for me.)

"Advanced Class '78 was our first Advanced Class...and that's probably the where and when of the first really big red flag that popped up for my wife and I. My wife got into a big argument with her Twig coordinator over the technical details of how to get born again of the wrong-seed - the Twig Coordinator was emphatic that there was a specific ritual one had to follow...whereas my wife's side of the argument was like my own, that there was nothing much taught on exactly HOW one gets born again of the wrong-seed..." wierwille's scary little bugaboo didn't even make sense on paper. Look- if we accept his premise that the devil can only make inferior copies of anything the true God makes, and can only corrupt or twist what's already there, then there was nothing before Pentecost of which to make an inferior copy! If the flesh and the spirit really are separate and don't overlap (you can't punch a devil-spirit with a flesh fist), then what flesh-and-blood ceremony could PERMANENTLY attach ONE to the OTHER? Further, there's no "percentage" in it for a smart "devil" to make an obvious target like that! In all the other schema, we see a person, and we see a spirit, and sometimes the spirit goes to the person, and they interact- a man speaks words from the spirit by possession, etc. Then the spirit leaves for a time- short or long. There's no benefit to keeping one spirit stuck with one person all the time, especially when it's easy to just kill the flesh-and-blood person. That raises the obvious question of what that would do to a spirit that was locked into a person who, say, was burned at the stake or beheaded. So, there's no point for a devil to come up with the system in the first place, nor to lock one of his agents in place needlessly. He's not known for loyalty- he's known for feigning loyalty and abandoning people as soon as it's expedient (just like vpw- hey, maybe that's how vpw got knowledge of spirits, by direct, long-term contact...) A specific ritual makes NO sense. Flesh-and-blood rituals to affect a spirit shouldn't have an effect. it's also a twi thing that the devil tailors his approach to the times and the cultures- so a ritual used by ancient Etruscans would not resemble a ritual used by anyone in the 20th century. The subject was vague because wierwille made the whole thing up from whole cloth. Supposedly, the Old Testament equivalent were "sons of Belial" - but by usage, the only thing we ever see about them is that they have a reputation for being DRUNKEN FOOLS. (Hey, I recognize wierwille again!) Everything else was what vpw himself referred to as "private interpretation", and is also known among other people as "bull$h1tting everyone." So, one does not "get born again of the wrong seed" because there is NO SUCH THING. It did not appear in the Bible. It was simply an occult (hidden) doctrine of wierwille's, who used its existence as another control mechanism because he, supposedly, had the inside track. After all, there were no other ministries or churches out there you could learn about this! :) So, he invented a new, secret thing, and congratulated you all for being mature enough to understand it. ]