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Even vpw's " speaking in tongues" was repetitive. That's understating the case, if anything. " Lo SHANta ma-la-ka-SI-to la SHONta." - vpw, every time, including when he was making a point that he could actually speak in tongues at will/ whenever he wanted. Either God was sending him, verbatim, the same message EVERY time, down to the last syllable, or vpw was faking it.

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I'm stumped for an idea. I'll post something eventually. Meanwhile, FREE POST if anyone just wants to post something.

Well, it's not normally something that comes up. However, when there's something that could be an error in the show or movie, I try to think of reasons it could be "true" for the show or movie, and Mrs Wolf does the same. It normally leads to pretty mundane explanations. We agree that "Big Bang Theory" and "Young Sheldon" both filter Sheldon's past through his memory. When he recounts what happened in BBT, he's often far off, but that's how he remembers it. (He remembered his house being an RV trailer somehow, while his Dad was alive- but we see he grew up in a nice house in "Young Sheldon." His internal narration is as error-ridden as anything else when determining what happened in "Young Sheldon." Rarely, we come up with something cool.

You may have read "Frankenstein" in school. Although Mary Shelley was English, Victor Frankenstein was Swiss/ Italian and "the monster" doesn't really have a nationality. This round is UNARGUABLY a British character. And has not been around nearly as long as Frankenstein (nor Holmes, for that matter.)

Anne Bancroft and Buck Henry were connected to Mel Brooks. "The TWELVE CHAIRS?????"

Ah, Lumley didn't play a man. :) (It can be argued she didn't play a woman, either.) This role is not Shakespeare, nor Shakepearean (no Marlowe, no Chaucer, etc.) It's not anything you would have been assigned to read in school. I'm sure you'll figure out the right answer as soon as you figure out the right question.

Complete subject change, but I didn't want to start a new thread, since this is a limited topic for discussion. Mrs Wolf and I were watching the first "Addams Family" movie (1991), and we got to discussing the Addamsverse (of the movie.) We both came up with some interesting ideas that fit what we observed. I feel they make those movies more rich and add to their setting. So, here's what we said. I asked about Tully Alport, Gomez' attorney (played by Dan Hedaya.) Gomez is his last paying customer. Mrs W talked about the gathering of the clan to celebrate "Fester"s return. She speculated that the entire family is a sort-of clan, with different families under it. With Gomez (or Fester) in charge, it's the Addams, but it could just as easily be the Amor clan if Flora and/or Fauna was the titular head. We see lots of people, some of whom have the same last name (Lumpy Addams), and some who do not (Flora Amor, Fauna Amor), and most we don't know either way, but they dress in a variety of styles. I speculate that the band was not part of the family, but a band that gets hired BY the family, so is recognized by them as willing to show up and play. (Sort of how gypsies in the US tend to work with specific non-gypsies who will work with them, like Sondra Chely the dressmaker who makes all the big event gypsy dresses in the US, apparently.) Any way, we have a varied family, and people who are willing to work for them, to some degree. (I assume Cousin It's car is a custom job....) As for the rest, there's family closer to the Addams we know, and family further away. They're all part of the family. Ok, now to her point. She thinks that BOTH Tully and his wife are part of the family. They're distant relatives who can TRY to blend into society and ignore the clan, but they don't for their own reasons. Tully and Margaret ended up together, and MAY have ended up together because they each found someone who was also part of the clan, but could pass for regular and didn't want to just be an Addams. So, they tried to just be normal, perhaps. The thing is, Tully, for reasons of his own, doesn't mesh well with the general population. He's dishonest and has driven off his other customers. We don't think Gomez hired him simply out of stupidity. Tully was hired because he's family and he was available. He understands both regular society- and the law and investments- and can fit into the clan. Tully and Margaret don't act like the normal public when confronted with clan behavior. Tully is fine with Gomez allegedly trying to spear him with a rapier, then dueling as soon as he walks into Gomez' study. He argues with "Gate" bur doesn't tell the Addams' to make it settle down. Margaret, upon meeting with the whole clan, does NOT run off screaming or anything- and there were plenty of reasons for her to do that like in the old show when neighbors visited. She reacted to supposedly tearing off Grandma's hand, and I forget if she tried to break into the vault and the plants got her, or if that was "Dr Binderschloss." However, upon meeting Cousin It, she didn't freak out, and she ended up chatting with him. Most shockingly, she has NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER UNDERSTANDING HIM. THAT is highly unusual. She was willing to date Cousin It. And marry, and have a kid. The most reasonable explanation was that she WAS part of the family. She thought Tully was the only male there she could accept, which is why SHE asked HIM. ("Why did I marry you?" "Because I said 'yes'.") Ok, I think Tully and Margaret make a LOT more sense that way. As for where the Addams fortune comes from, I think it has to do with who they are. (This was my big idea.) I think the Addams' are related to CHARON, the Boatman of the Underworld, or HADES its ruler, or possibly both. Because treasure comes from underground, Hades is seen as really rich (aka Pluto, who lends his name to words like "plutocracy", government by the rich.) Charon himself collects money from his passengers, and it adds up. Decades ago, I read a book where someone wondered what he did with all his money. Either would explain where the huge treasure vault of treasure came from that Gomez uses. I got to thinking about this when thinking about how he gets to the vault. He goes through a passageway. He takes a slide under his house. It goes a LONG way, and ends up at a river, with a riverboat to pole along. The distance DOWN doesn't make sense. However, if he passed "down" into some sort of netherworld, then all the "down" could be THERE rather than LITERALLY under the house. The end of the chute is at a dock with a heavy, heavy mist, with a boat like Charon's docked there for Gomez. Gomez comments how the air there- out in the open and at the shore- is "like a tomb." So, a connection to Charon or Hades would explain the passage as well as the wealth. It would help explain what makes them a "family" by some standard- as descendants of Charon or Hades. It would help explain some of their abilities. (Even Tully can survive being turned upside down and held up by his neck. Fester once claimed he opened his brother's skull as a kid and took out his brain. The Mamushka and Gomez and Morticia's dance in the 2nd movie showed Fester and Morticia, in particular, displaying rare abilities in the dance.) I think that's the basis for the family. I think they'd consider adding people by marriage or whatever, as long as they truly fit in. In the 2nd movie, Morticia sounded like she was ready to accept Debbie as a family member- except for her fashion sense. When Debbie made Fester cut himself off from the Addams, Morticia spoke to her. "You've ensnared Fester in some sort of sexual spell. I respect that. But Debbie.... PASTELS????" Even at the end, they sounded comfortable with her, all the way to their "Goodbye". We felt a little bad for Debbie that they were so ready to accept her, but she couldn't see past her own plans. They were even comfortable with serial killers in the family- if the tour of the family graveyard was any indication. Ok, fine. We took this a LOT more seriously than we're supposed to. I think it added a great deal to our enjoyment of both movies. And for the record, I think Mrs Wolf and I would get along with both that movie version and the version from the classic TV show- but like the movie ones better.

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If you're interested, they've been discussed in several threads. "Splintering and Subjugating as night follows day." Splinter Cults are WORSE not better." "Revival and Restoration." "R&R Group- too late, sycophants already taken." Might this be why the moneyhands were M&A?" There may have been others. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24900-splintering-and-subjugatingas-night-follows-day/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24827-splinter-cults-are-worsenot-better/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24457-revival-and-restoration/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24586-rr-group-too-late-cult-sycophants-already-taken/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24458-might-this-be-why-the-moneyhands-were-ma/

When they supposedly tried to confront the twi bod, the claim was to try to change twi. This might be believed, except.... -Someone mentioned plans to start up some other group over a year before the big meeting. -Someone registered the domain name "revival and restoration" several months before the big meeting. They already had plans for a new group before they ever met with the bod. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

He was also in Midnight Madness John Fiedler the Cannonball Run

World of Warcraft. Which I've never played. There was an actual event. Later, they re-enacted it so they could make a video of it, which is rather famous now. The team was going to go in somewhere dangerous. The team leader began laying out a VERY detailed plan to get something and leave without tripping the alarms/ getting hundreds of monsters to spawn and attack. Everyone listens closely....except for Leeroy Jenkins, who goes AFK to get a bucket of chicken from the fridge. Leeroy returns just as the leader's finished running through the whole plan. Leeroy: "All right, chums, let's do this. LEEROY JENKINS!!!!" *charges* The rest of the party runs in to try to save him, discarding the plan. The entire party gets wiped out in the ensuing fight. Abduhl: "Leeroy, you are just stupid as hell." Spiffy: "Nimrod." [Another Player]: "Oh my God..." Leeroy: "... At least I have chicken." https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins https://wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Leeroy_Jenkins_(video)

No. Not a role based on a real person.

A lot of people remember him from "Revenge of the Nerds." This is interesting, since they refused to cast him in it after he pioneered the roles. When he asked, they said they just wanted more regular people DRESSED as nerds. (Actually, they have a point. A lot of nerds/ geeks don't fit the stereotype, present company included.) I remembered him having been in "Hamburger-the Movie", and he wasn't in THAT, either. I DO remember him from at least 1 other movie rather vividly, however, and he definitely was in it. (Besides "Grease", of course.)

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John Travolta Grease Eddie Deezen ("Eugene Felznick", the class nerd with the great pitching arm)

Although this IS a British role, it is NOT Sherlock Holmes nor anything Holmesian nor by Arthur Conan Doyle.

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She played the only "Eunice" I could remember. Ok, let's see, next round, I'll need to think a moment....

Around here, that was going to be guessed pretty quickly.

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So long as he kept it under wraps, he could-and did- use that tactic repeatedly. It's blatantly manipulative, which is classic vpw when the cameras were off. The 'Zero Corps' all walked when he pulled that- so I suspect he fine-tuned his ploy by offering his "second chance" immediately the next day. That's purely speculation, however (I'm speculating he added the second chance the next day and for that reason.)

Got 2 guesses. Guess 1- CAROL BURNETT. Guess 2- Elizabeth Hurley.

Wasn't paying attention the other night. I should have gotten both Gabe Cash and Jack Burton immediately.