WordWolf

Ok, here's 2 movies, both of which had pie fights in them. Name either movie. A) This horror movie, somewhat famous, from a somewhat famous director, includes several scenes in a shopping mall. It picked up not long after the previous movie left off. B) This family comedy, somewhat obscure, is a gangster movie done with kids playing all the roles, and no real violence (a lot of pies gave their lives for this movie.) Scott Baio and Jodie Foster were 2 of the actors. All of the actors were 16 or younger at the time of filming. Paul Williams wrote the songs for this movie, which explains why I remember the theme song better than the movie. All the cars were pedal-cars custom made for this film. In 2015, the producer permitted a London production of a play based on this movie. It was a success, and the film's producer liked it better than the movie. (Yes, I could name either movie from those hints. No, I have not seen either movie start to finish.)

I lean more in that direction than to dispensationalism, since I think it works on paper. I haven't done a lot of research on it, and it hasn't come up except in discussions here. So, it's not exactly a high priority. I've more important issues I'm currently neglecting. :) As I see it, God's told different people what He expects of them, and what He offers them in return. (Jesus told a parable about this, IIRC.) We see different people co-existing, with different expectations, Call those covenants if you want, or don't. I think they're more relevant as subsets of a discussion of Final Judgement, but we're not having that discussion in this thread.

A gum resin used in burials. Exodus 30 says it formed the basis of an anointing oil. It was later used as an ingredient of the consecrating incense in the Temple at Jerusalem, at least according to Wikipedia (which cites the Talmud.)

You'll probably want someone who's pushing that POV to chime in. I'm not pushing dispensationalism, but I can explain it- and answered a question about that. You had a GENERAL question about "covenantal", so I answered that. I'm more open to answering on things on which I've done my due diligence, and I don't consider this to be one of them.

It sounds funny and clever. As soon as I read it, I thought of getting 2 friends and going as the gold, frankincense and myrrh (back then, at least.)

Galatians 3 compares and contrasts the law and faith, the law and "the promise". and says that the faith part was a "covenant." It says we're "heirs according to the promise", and "Abraham's seed". Galatians 3 (KJV) 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. So, Jew and Greek no more- child of God by faith in Christ Jesus,. and Abraham's seed, therefore heir according to the promise. The contrast is stronger in Galatians 4. Galatians 4 (KJV) 21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. So, we're separate from the Jews, who keep the law. We are "the children of promise." Hebrews 8 gets into this "covenant" business again. Hebrews 8 (KJV) 6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Hebrews 11, after the entire run of the Hall of Fame, concluded thusly: Hebrews 11 (KJV) 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. For those unsure, that "without" is Elizabethan English again- it's the antonym of "within." "Without" meaning, in this instance, "those external to us." We saw in Galatians that we're not folded into the Law, nor are those who keep the Law folded into us. (I once heard someone claim that, based only on reading the archaic English, that this meant that they would "be made perfect" when they're with us, so they're not "without us." A look at a more modern version should clear that one up.) Hebrews 12 (KJV) 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Hebrews 13 (KJV) 20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. The other chapters get into the yearly sacrifices under the law, which were not sufficient to fully expunge sin, and contrast them with Jesus' sacrifice ONCE for all (men and time.) I think that's off-topic for discussing covenants, although relevant for what Jesus did and why. So, I see "covenants" discussed here, based on the usage of the word "covenant" and how it's used in these instances.

I was ready to disagree with you, but I think we got to the exact same answer by the end- that God works with us DESPITE, that God plans DESPITE (despite our disobedience, despite our bad decisions, despite the bad decisions of others....) That can LOOK like God wanted us in that place, but it's not quite the same, even if he blesses us there and meets us there.

Bolshevik, that was a serious question. ACCORDING TO TWI, you need to give them all your money or God won't help you. It's a system of paying protection money to a "God-Father" out of self-preservation and fear rather than giving cheerfully to a loving Father who loves you either way. God is Good Always. Outside of twi, there's many happy Christians who aren't cowering in fear of God smiting them, or cowering in fear that God will let someone else smite them- all because they didn't donate enough money, or donate enough time, and so on. There's never an exact amount for "arriving" because twi has to keep moving the goalposts. Gave them all your time and money, and bad things STILL happened? Well, it's your fault still, so ANOTHER excuse is made up. The sun and the rain are for all people, and bad things happen to good even as good things happen to bad people. twi's system benefits twi and not the people. I've seen some miraculous healing for people who never tithed to anyone, from people who don't tithe. So, healing is not dependent upon tithing. Taxidev addressed the tithe quite neatly above, so I won't get into specifics because I'll just repeat what he already said. Tithing was for Israel for a specific reason and specific circumstances (none of which apply now even to Israel.) Tithing was never mentioned in the Epistles as something we needed to do, and references in the Gospel were Jesus saying that people were doing it- it wasn't something Jesus went around teaching we had to do. He addressed it when it came up.

Was this "the Great Race"? If so, I'm shocked I don't remember the pie fight.

Judges? Well, technically, you didn't give the right answer, but I'll give it to you anyway. The show was "YOUNG SHELDON." The ended series was BBT. Season 2 ended with Sheldon feeling like he'd be forever alone, without people. Then we saw a brief montage of the BBT gang at that moment in their lives- Leonard awake and following the Nobel broadcast also ("Leonard, dear, you should be in bed.") Penny asleep with the softball gear in her room and "Penny" on the wall for the slow people, Raj awake with a telescope, reading, Howard in his old room, with a magic set in one corner, playing a SNES ("Howard, turn off that **** game and go to sleep!") Bernadette asleep with her pageant trophies and microscope, Amy reading "Little House on the Prairie" by flashlight. It was a nice way to end the season. This series does reshuffle some minor characters' names. Also, in BBT, Sheldon claimed once that he was sick in Germany (or Austria?) when his Mom returned home because the house had fallen off the wheels and she had to help Dad fix it- but in "Young Sheldon", they definitely lived in a house.

They will probably START there, then migrate to other formats. First, they soak the public for the streaming service. Then, they license it to cable channels for a price, for those of us who won't pay for that, probably.

TLC: One of the main reasons I suppose I balk at the reference to and use of "covenantal," is that I just don't see and am simply not convinced that during this day and time we are in any kind of "covenantal" relationship with God. Is there any evidence for it in any of Paul's writings? " The word "covenant" is used, in this context, in Galatians 3 and Hebrews 8. Both compare and contrast the "covenant" with Israel and the "covenant" with us. According to Hebrews 12:24, Jesus is its mediator. "And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." If you need me to, I'll paste all of Galatians 3 and Hebrews 8 as well.

I addressed that to "infoabsorption", aka "info" and not TLC.

I think there's a fine, but critical distinction between "and the One Body includes members who were once Jew or Gentile, but now are neither" and "the One Body is composed of all the Jews and Gentiles." It sounded like you meant the latter, info, and my understanding is that the former happened. For the sake of discussion, supposing "dispensationalism" is correct, then I don't see the need for the Law "Administration" to be back. All those who number the dispensations say the next one follows. For vpw, the Grace whatever ends and abruptly the "Revealing" (apocalyptic) one steps in. Bullinger said the same thing, only numbering "Grace" as 4th because vpw claimed Christ's physical ministry of 1 year was an "administration" (I thought Jesus said otherwise, when he mentioned the jots and tittles.) If "covenantal" is correct, then the covenant "of Grace" ends when the people of that covenant all leave. It's still in effect- it's just with them. The previous covenant, of the Mosaic Law, was still in effect and has still been in effect- for Israel. And another covenant will come into play once the "Grace" covenant has left Earth.

At least 2 characters that have appeared in this series have had some name shuffles. Jeff Hodgkins became Jeff Difford. Roy Farrow became Wayne Farrow. We were also previously told someone lived in a trailer, but they rather obviously live in a house. Elon Musk appeared as himself. One season's finale included a VERY noticeable nod to a then-ended series. I appreciated that the props department included a Super Nintendo controller, Mrs Wolf appreciated that they duplicated a piece of the set.

Um, "Some Like it Hot"?????

I think everybody thought they phoned in "Muppets in Space." I didn't see MCC nor MTI. Apparently I should check out MCC. I thought the Muppets Take Manhattan was nice, but I didn't think it measured up to the first 2. I would still sit down to watch it, I just didn't think it needed recommending.

I'll take that as close enough, and CORRECT. This was "THE MUPPETS." There have been a number of movies with the Muppets. I would say that the first two - "The Muppet Movie" and "the Great Muppet Caper" were fun to watch, as was "The Muppets",, and I would recommend TMM and TM to anyone, preferably to watch in that order, since TM references TMM a number of times (the contract, "Jack", Kermit mentioning the other movie in passing....) In the first one, we get the Muppets arriving for a private screening of their movie, a version of how they got together, "sorta approximately." Their movie opened with Kermit sitting on the log, playing the banjo and singing "the Rainbow Connection." Towards the end of the sequel, Kermit and Miss Piggy sing it- and the other Muppets join them onstage. A lot of parents in the audience, who saw the first movie as children, got misty-eyed during the song (either when it began, or when the other Muppets joined them, or when the drumming joined in.) Both movies were musicals, but Andy Williams wrote some original songs for the former which were perfect for it, including "the Rainbow Connection." IMHO, "The Muppets" was done by people who knew and actually cared about the Muppets as well as The Muppet Movie. I've heard nothing about "Muppets Most Wanted" to suggest the same was true of that one. However, TMM and TGMC were done by Jim Henson's team, so they obviously cared. "The Muppets" proved it didn't HAVE to include Jim Henson to have the old magic (although it's not that easy to make a Muppet movie without him and capture the magic.)

dmiller posted here about Leonard's account. According to Leonard, vpw came up to take BGL's class one time. Then vpw requested permission to teach BGL's class locally on a one-time basis. Leonard consented. He was told the class went off and was sent a photo of the graduates. That's the last he was told. What Leonard found out LATER was that vpw left out that the class was Leonard's. He taught it entirely as his own class. That was why the original classes had no syllabus. vpw would have had to refrain from the printed syllabus of "Gifts of the Holy Spirit" and get around to retyping it as the syllabus of "Receiving the Holy Spirit Today." vpw continued to teach that class. Later, vpw added Stiles' book "Gifts of the Spirit" to Sessions 9-12, retyped Stiles' textbook as the White Book, and added the contents of Bullinger's book on the holy spirit (to the White Book and 9-12) and "How to Enjoy the Bible" (which became Sessions 5-8). As he added material, he also split off the Intermediate Class from the other material (first as the "TIP" class for "Tongues Interpretation and Prophecy", then stretched out as the full Intermediate class. The classes were amalgams of the material of others, rearranged and occasionally reworded so they sounded less like the authors.

At least 2 characters that have appeared in this series have had some name shuffles. Jeff Hodgkins became Jeff Difford. Roy Farrow became Wayne Farrow. We were also previously told someone lived in a trailer, but they rather obviously live in a house. Elon Musk appeared as himself.

Mickey Rooney....... Dave Grohl....... Judd Hirsch...... Neil Patrick Harris....... Selena Gomez....... Whoopi Goldberg....... James Carville...... Emily Blunt....... Donald Glover...... Sarah Silverman...... Ken Jeong....... Zach Galifianakis...... Alan Arkin..... Rashida Jones..... Chris Cooper..... Amy Adams..... Jason Segal...Jim Parsons...Steve Whitmire.... Eric Jacobson.... Dave Goelz..... Bill Barretta.... David Rudman... Matt Vogel.... Peter Linz .... Jerry Nelson Mrs Wolf later said that the point where the stage lights went dark should have coincided with Wayne and Wanda taking the stage. She was right, but very few people would have gotten the joke, although I would have fallen out of my chair. It should surprise no one that this movie was a musical. It also references the first movie (and ignores all the others, obviously.) This movie represented the international standardizing of the names of these characters. Now, they all have their original English names, so Rene, for example, isn't Rene anymore. I realized that when I saw the promotional posters go up, with the names I recognized. Correction: In Spain, he was still "Gustavo." The songs in this movie's soundtrack include "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard," "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Gary Numan's "Cars", AC/DC's "Back in Black", "Bad to the Bone", "(I'v e Had the) Time of My Life", and Starship's "We Built This City". The role of Tex Richman was originally written for Alan Rickman. The moment in a Google office was filmed in an actual Google office in Zurich, at least as of the filming. The auto being worked on in the children's classroom was a British "Morris Minor." I'll have to play the DVD again, since I've wondered what they look like. (Black 47 mentioned that model in their breakout song "Funky Ceily" and I've never known what they looked like.) Courtney Love was outraged about the way "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was sung and played. Dave Grohl was happy with it (and I was quite entertained.) Grohl probably heard about it before she did, since he was actually IN the movie. I have to admit, I would never have guessed this song would have ended up in this movie, not if given 100 guesses to name a song for the soundtrack. Towards the end, there was a musical number featuring a banjo. A lot of the audience started crying somewhere in the course of the song. Frank Oz refused to do this movie, and I think that was a shame. "Mahna, mahna."

I don't recommend many movies. Once again, I recommend this movie.

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Mickey Rooney....... Dave Grohl....... Judd Hirsch...... Neil Patrick Harris....... Selena Gomez....... Whoopi Goldberg....... James Carville...... Emily Blunt....... Donald Glover...... Sarah Silverman...... Ken Jeong....... Zach Galifianakis...... Alan Arkin..... Rashida Jones..... Chris Cooper..... Amy Adams..... Jason Segal...Jim Parsons...Steve Whitmire.... Eric Jacobson.... Dave Goelz..... Bill Barretta.... David Rudman... Matt Vogel.... Peter Linz .... Jerry Nelson Mrs Wolf later said that the point where the stage lights went dark should have coincided with Wayne and Wanda taking the stage. She was right, but very few people would have gotten the joke, although I would have fallen out of my chair. It should surprise no one that this movie was a musical. It also references the first movie (and ignores all the others, obviously.) This movie represented the international standardizing of the names of these characters. Now, they all have their original English names, so Rene, for example, isn't Rene anymore. I realized that when I saw the promotional posters go up, with the names I recognized. Correction: In Spain, he was still "Gustavo." The songs in this movie's soundtrack include "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard," "Smells Like Teen Spirit", Gary Numan's "Cars", AC/DC's "Back in Black", "Bad to the Bone", "(I'v e Had the) Time of My Life", and Starship's "We Built This City". The role of Tex Richman was originally written for Alan Rickman. The moment in a Google office was filmed in an actual Google office in Zurich, at least as of the filming. The auto being worked on in the children's classroom was a British "Morris Minor." I'll have to play the DVD again, since I've wondered what they look like. (Black 47 mentioned that model in their breakout song "Funky Ceily" and I've never known what they looked like.) Courtney Love was outraged about the way "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was sung and played. Dave Grohl was happy with it (and I was quite entertained.) Grohl probably heard about it before she did, since he was actually IN the movie. I have to admit, I would never have guessed this song would have ended up in this movie, not if given 100 guesses to name a song for the soundtrack. Towards the end, there was a musical number featuring a banjo. A lot of the audience started crying somewhere in the course of the song.

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