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PFAL: An Unorthodox Translation
WordWolf replied to Tom Strange's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
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PFAL: An Unorthodox Translation
WordWolf replied to Tom Strange's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Bingo. This simple fact is what's puzzling Mike this morning. -
It's not that odd if they dont acknowledge that any of that corrects an error. For example, Kingdom of Heaven/Kingdom of God (the early 90s version) corrected an error from vpw- that the two terms meant 2 different things. This vpw lifted directly from Bullinger. Both vpw and Bullinger were unaware the terms were used INTERCHANGEABLY. Bullinger's explanation was clever and sounded GREAT. I LIKED his explanation. I liked his reasoning. However, that didn't change the incorrectness of it. Some people might not be aware-or may be deliberately supressing-that this was a correction of a vpw error.
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"I've got to make a play to make my lover stay What would an angel say, the devil wants to know."
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I'm not going to wait forever to see if the artist was remembered. That's "Hey Nineteen", all right, and that's a Steely Dan song. Here's a more recent song I happened to be thinking of. "What would an angel say, the devil wants to know."
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PFAL: An Unorthodox Translation
WordWolf replied to Tom Strange's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
But red drapes are on the "available list." Oddly enough, so is killing your kid. -
The liabilities are listed by name-they're the management.
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It's been a while since we discussed AOS. I figured some people missed that lcm ripped it off of Travolta. And missed the famous "ruptured chimpanzee" review.....
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PFAL: An Unorthodox Translation
WordWolf replied to Tom Strange's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
I noticed Mr "I-Dont-Going-Around-Insulting-People" wasted no time on the new thread insulting me. ====== Ok, we were discussing a few of Mike's greatest hits here... ====== Mike 2/2/04, 12:17am. "When you see Christ in his glory he will be holding a PFAL book in his hand and teaching you from it." Mike 2/3/04 5:22am. "Jesus Christ appointed Dr his spokesman. Jesus Christ is VERY interested in PFAL. He told me so." Vickles 2/3/04, 7:51pm. "So, Mike, you weren't kidding about JC coming with a PFAL book in his hand." Mike, 2/3/04, 7:53pm. "Totally serious. I've already seen him this way more than once." ====== Now, Tom Strange asked him about these "more than once" times Mike has claimed to see Jesus. Mike asked what Jesus looked like when Mike saw him. Mike then went into a lengthy obfuscation where he did everything BUT describe what Jesus looked like, and talked a lot about the "spiritual" versus the "physical". So-while refusing to say so outright- which should be trademarked by Mike, who always hated answering questions directly- Mike INSINUATED-SUGGESTED- that those times he saw Jesus it was some sort of "spiritual" seeing of him, and he didn't actually lay eyes on him in any conventional fashion, not even a normal vision. Tom also asked how Mike-who won't say HOW he saw Jesus-knows he saw the REAL Jesus and not some sort of counterfeit. Mike's reply was typical Mike. Mike pretended Tom never asked him, and instead challenged Tom to tell how HE would identify Jesus if he saw him. In all that, supposedly, the reader isn't supposed to notice that Mikecompletely dodged Tom's question, and pretended this was HIS question. Most people can see the difference, however. Then, of course, came another round of dodging. This was Mike pretending that Tom's question wasn't under discussion already, and that Tom was dodging MIKE's question, rather than the other way around. Here he goes again... You, of course, note that ALL of that was STILL to avoidanswering Tom's question. Then comes the famous "I meant to do that" also from the classic Mike playbook. Aaand, more reasons why he won't answer the question... Here's what Tom occasionally refers to as Mike requiringhis approval so that we have access to his advanced abilities. I previously claimed I didn't see them per se, and it looks like Mike's proven me wrong on that one... Here's Mike pretending to answer Tom by addressing what Tom didn't ask him... Here's Mike's "non-insults" of me while I'm just going aboutmy own business. Notice how Mike objects to others "attacking" him, but is swift to use derogatory terms in reference to me? Not even something of substance, just insults. The reader's supposed to not notice that he's using an ad hominem attack rather than substance, to hide the weakness of his "case." And here's another... Generously answering what Tom didn't ask him... Hey- he never actually got around to answering it..... Unless his entire answer was the matter of the preposition, which we DID discuss once. (Making this an old answer to a question nobody's asking him now.) So, here's what Mike said originally: "Jesus Christ appointed Dr his spokesman. Jesus Christ is VERY interested in PFAL. He told me so." Here's what Mike's later claimed he meant, in an incomplete answer... "Jesus Christ appointed Dr his spokesman. Dr told me so. Jesus Christ is VERY interested in PFAL." So far, Mike refused to explain the "Jesus Christ is VERY interested in PFAL" part, as in "how does Mike justify this statement?" But the first part was explained as "I know vpw was appointed as Jesus Christ's spokesman, because when I read the PFAL books, I see vpw saying that Jesus Christ appointed him his spokesman." As to JC being "VERY interested in PFAL", that statement's still unexplained... -
Someone asked about the ROA. Posts about a "whorehouse" are on the top of page 7.
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There was a thread, "Memories of the ROA" a while back that-I think- mentioned this. To be specific, I think Jonny Lingo hit it here: http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...ndpost&p=209276 or possibly it was one of the following posts...
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Acts 16:16-18. (KJV) "And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which show unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour." ==== Luke 4:9-11. (KJV) "And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone."
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Latter Day Saints Catechesis
WordWolf replied to markomalley's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Oh, he's just throwing insults and saying that to attempt to hide the fact that tl posted official doctrine that says the OPPOSITE of what he did, and that they haven't endorsed polygamy for OVER A CENTURY, Allan notwithstanding. Allan either missed that, or has decided to disregard it and post the opposite afterwards. -
Yes, that was my point.
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Latter Day Saints Catechesis
WordWolf replied to markomalley's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Why is it almost always the same half-dozen posters who post and display an ignorance of the topic at hand? TempleLady, please give an official citation on the subject of polygamy. -
The Official, the Ultimate, the Amazing PFAL Thread
WordWolf replied to Modaustin's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
vpw himself refuted the idea that benefits were necessarily God-breathed. He pointed out how some people get a good feeling off the Psychiatrist's couch. -
And in the early 90s, I spoke to one of the "left in 89" ex-twi leaders, as he brought up the subject of helping out in the local community. He was telling me this like he was bringing up this subject I'd never heard of-since HE'D never heard of it. The incredible irony of the situation: at the time he'd mentioned this, I'd ALREADY logged HUNDREDS of hours of community service, in 40-hour blocks, not counting TRAINING and other RELATED subjects, all over New York City and OUTSIDE NYC. I just didn't do it IN TWI. Of course, if leadership training OR community service was not done with their approval and at their direction- which mine wasn't, this was the first he'd heard of it- then it was some sort of dirty secret I'd been keeping. Oddly enough, at the time, one of our local denominations, at the time-and I expect now as well- had people my age also doing community service AS A GROUP. What was revolutionary to twi-actually HELPING OTHERS, or-as JESUS would put it, being their neighbor- was old hat with them. (Luke 10:27-37) To them, this "go and do thou likewise" thing was more "we should do this" than a joke illustrating the foolishness of other Christians. (i.e. "Read a verse at random, and that's your guide for the day.")
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When you get a chance, PLEASE post the list. Not everybody here ever got that list. Not everybody here STILL has that list. I'll reserve my opinion until I have a bit more information.
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Actually, the original poster, from what I've seen, asked this MONTHS AGO as an honest question of genuine curiousity. (It's like when I asked about that robes thing.) Someone (CK) decided to drag the thread up just so he had a place to post an insult. Once in a while, the dates on a thread are relevant.
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Acts 16:16-18. (KJV) "And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which show unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour." ==== Luke 4:9-11. (KJV) "And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee: And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone."
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Ok, let's see... [WordWolf in boldface and brackets.]
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That's faster than my way. I entered the Search menu and specified the member name and that it had to be "exact match", and usually specified a forum and a searchword. My way does have its uses, but so does Belle's.
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Your peeps have responded! And here they are! :)