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I think Jesus is just a substitute image of a yet to be knowable God. 'If you have seen me, you have seen the father" Jesus is as yet the most perfect reflection of God that our limiter minds can grasp. In that sense he is God. But he and the Father have separate wills. Same as with the Holy Spirit. It has a different identity from God the Father, and God the son, and may only be a temporary facet of God to bring knowledge of the unspeakable to those who are Christ's. Indeed too, it seems that there will come a time when everything will be handed over to God, when He can truley be known. Is Christ and the Holy Spirit God? In a sense yes, but only for a season. Jerry

My wife pointed out to me that PALE GAS is like a memory device to remember the 7 deadly sins.(do I feel like a dunce) I didn't spot it and was confused by the term. Yes, my list of opposites is rather preliminary, but I think evil is an accurate opposite for goodness. What other opposites might you list that would convey the fruit of an evil lifestyle? This happens at harvest time or as a test to see if the fruit is fully rippened.Jerry

I have not heard that there be any such thing as PALE GAS.Makes it hard to get the point. Jerry

I was thinking, what would be the opposite of these fruit?Love ---------------Hate or indifferance Joy ----------------despair Peace --------------- strife Longsuffering--------impatience gentleness-----------assertive goodnes--------------??? faith-------------------reason meekness------------self important temperance----------impulsive Anybody know of any better words to describe the opposite? Jerry

Here is Wikipedia's take on Ivan Panin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Panin Jerry

Bless you roy. This almost seems to be defining Christ as a great demon!?!Jerry

Anyone know if he has an email addy?

What is the next thing? Is there a pattern of things you do? Like following some kind of script?Jerry

I ran across this guy, Ivan Panin, who I thought was just doing bible code type stuff. But apparently he spent fifty years of hid life and produced some 43,000 pages of work on the bible looking for paterns in the numbers that correspond to the letters of the alphabet. I couldn't help but think he would have liked playing Sudoku puzzles. His work is impressive, although I'm sure he has his share of skeptics too. Anyone hear of him? Jerry

Isn't this the mystery, Tring to determine exactly what God is calling us to do. The calling isn't to have a cookie cutter existence What pleases God for one man, may be not match up with someone elses calling. Can the eye try to be the foot and still please God?Jerry

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Exactly, and it takes a very special man to be the point man of a movement. Especially when the movement is trying to help a lot of people.But trying to force yourself to be that person can't be done. Each of us is who we are for a reason.Jerry

This is so simple, yet profoundJerry

And are these that are outside the visible church but inside the invisible, part of the New covenant?Jerry

These theories may some day give a clue to what dark matter is made up of. Jerry

I'll have to ponder this one. At first I thought you were talking about fertilizer, like cow manure, and thought you had lost it. Then I realized you meant the fertilization like an egg being fertilized. At least thats the way I took it.Bless, Jerry

Well, I guess its whether you think the "they" in your statement is God speaking or not. If He says "born" I think the seed has already sprouted.Jerry

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Don't think I'm picking on you Roy, I'm just trying to get your point of view.How do we know Adam had incorruptible seed and not spirit upon him like other old testament believers?I thought the spirit came for the first time on Pentecost. (This, of course,is PFAL) I think you missed typing some letters here, At least I don't understand.Jerry

How do you square this with the term incorruptible seed?Jerry

Make my Satuday pizza a veggie lovers please.Jerry

Can you tell me where you saw this? Its news to me.Jerry

Dreams and visions are mentioned together so often, I think they must be a lot alike.God knows. Jerry

How many of you looked at your hands? Did you move on to your feet? Jerry

Even over Drambuie? Jerry