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No, George. I'll explain in 48 hours.

I'm reminded of the time Spock yelled "Khaaaannnn!!!!"

Earlier. She was the lead in Roxy Carmichael.

Go back further than the earliest Winona Ryder movie you're thinking of. She was not the lead actress in this one.

I think the terminology is a red flag, to be sure, but not a "tell." For those who don't know, a "tell" is a term used in poker, and it's how one player knows another player is bluffing. The one who's bluffing will do something, probably something involuntary, that will signal his bluff to anyone who knows to look for it. Idiosyncrasies. Quirks. Little things that tell people we're dealing with TWI. "The Gathering Together" instead of the rapture is a tell. PFAL is a tell. The word of God is the will of God is a tell. I'm off topic. It might make an interesting thread of its own, though.

Well, the first one doesn't look much like an offshoot to me, and the second is a list of search results.

A feel good underdog movie. You know the kind. Awkward teen blossoms into ... no, he just stays an awkward teen. But at least he gets the girl! Except... he... doesn't. She goes for the typical jock instead. And of course, THAT guy is a total as... well, no, he's actually a pretty nice guy and the best friend/older brother figure of the awkward teen. But hey, at least the awkward teen makes it onto the football team and makes the gamewinning catch in the big game... except, no, he drops what would have been the gamewinning catch in the big game. A feel... good... underdog movie? Well, it was. And hey, at least the lead actor fulfilled this movie's promise of an exceptional, critically acclaimed career... except, no, he went on to become a caricature of himself and died prematurely. Shucks, now I'm depressed. Well, at least one good thing came of this movie -- Winona Ryder.

As Good As It Gets "Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket."

Thank you

Be nice, Garth. He has as much right as the rest of us.

Maybe I'm dense. I'll try again: What aspect of the raising of Lazarus is covered differently in the REV than it is in other Bibles? What does the REV have in that story, either in the verses or in the commentary, that one cannot find elsewhere? Why are you calling attention to it? What is your question? I'm not seeing a question.

See the part I put in bold? That's where the Outsider Test comes in. It's the point where we don't give the Bible a boost, but we in fact put it on a level playing field with every other book claiming to be divinely inspired. Once you do that, it becomes impossible to defend. BEFORE you do that, you have to contort yourself to accept what would otherwise be unacceptable. Slavery isn't so bad... at least it wasn't American slavery! Forcing a woman to marry her rapist beat the alternative! (Never mind that God, if he were moral, could have mandated a more moral alternative!). We HAD to stone sabbath breakers to death. Otherwise, people would disobey God left and right! Which... they... did... anyway. We dismiss the atrocity of the Old Testament by patting God on the back for having the wisdom to do away with it in the New Testament (which Jesus explicitly says he did not do, but that's okay because Paul, who never met Jesus, said otherwise). We would never accept these contortions coming in defense of the Q'uran. But in defense of Leviticus and Deuteronomy? Well, you have to understand the culture of the time... The only thing you have to understand is that the Bible never rose above the morality of the people who wrote it. You can see how the morality thread is a logical extension of this one: just more targeted and specific.

That was not a derail. Just saying.

But The Muppet Movie did.

http://www.wtwonline.org/index.html http://www.bing.com/search?pc=AMAZ&form=AMAZWB&setmkt=en-US&q=%22work+the+word%22

Dagnabit. Mike Meyers. That's twice I done did that

Working the word consists of getting it to say what it must say no matter what it does say.

Not stupid. Just confused one movie for another, like I just did. Austin Powers III Tom Cruise Mission Impossible (any)

No. Go for it.

I am a season and a half behind on Arrow

A Hard Day's Night to Remember the Titans

Martin Landau won for Ed Wood, not EdTV

KG looks like LCM. Am I the only one who got that?

I meant what she said.

A couple of things, and I'll just speak for myself. I don't think anyone is stupid for believing. I believed most of my life. I don't think anyone is a lunatic, either, BUT I would make a similar comment with the understanding that it's essentially a challenge. That is, I would REALLY be saying that you don't know the OT as well as you think you do. That is not very different from my tactic on the longer morality thread. More later.