Raf

I guess.

Thanks for taking my comments in their intended spirit, CM.

That would have been a lot more diplomatic, wouldn't it. If not for the potshot line, it is pretty much exactly what he said, though, isn't it?

Any advice?

If there's a pineapple on it, it's not a sport.

And I think it's a bit presumptuous to say he wants the glory to go to himself. That's all. If Jerry Barrax can honestly look at the scriptures and honestly come to this conclusion, why can't VF? Why do his motives have to be questioned, or worse, automatically impugned? It's a ruse? Why? Was it a ruse when he decided there was no "law" of believing? Would it be a "ruse" if he adopted the trinity? Why is it a ruse, rather than coming to a different conclusion from what he previously believed? If Jerry Barrax can do it, why can't VF? What I see here is a lot of people who have problems with the VF they knew in TWI and imposing those perceptions on decisions he made years after they lost contact with him (with the apparent exception of sunesis). I'm obviously biased, because I've seen the tears that have come out of that man's eyes when he talks about some of the things he did in the past. To see people who have not heard a word from him since the 1980s declare with certainty that his change of doctrine is self-serving strikes me as unfair. If you want to challenge the doctrine, go ahead. But to read into his motives when you haven't seen anything about the man for more than 15 years...? I'm not saying "I'm right and you're wrong." I am saying that there's no way you can, with certainty, say some of the things that have been said here. It's not right, IMO.

Heavens, no, George. That's something the old TWI would do. Not the new, kinder, gentler TWI.

It was a platitude that proves nothing.

The "gathering together" is indistinguishable from the first resurrection, aka the resurrection of the just. Dispensational theology was replaced with, apparently, covenant theology (Steve Lortz can correct me if I'm misusing either term):

I don't know. It just seemed better than saying "an entire loaf of bread" or "a box of Ritz crackers." I should have said Par juice instead of the wine, though. THAT would make me feel at one with the Almighty.

I really wanted to give someone else a shot, but now that it's been 26 hours... Cast Away

Well, I would have done it, except, you see, I was 2. Forgive my lateness.

I have not. John didn't ask me my opinion when he got married. I didn't live with them. I was not in their lives. I look at this as none of my business.

Yes. One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong... Can you guess which thing is not like the others Before I finish singing this song?

Exactly! And soy hot dogs! Don't even get me started!

I didn't have this experience at all. I thought it was quite the opposite: one CG was out of the picture, and only when CG was out of the picture, VF began dropping TWI doctrines like hot potatoes: pre-trib rapture, dispensationalism, and "once saved always saved," for lack of a better term.

Well, unless pineapple is sausage with sugar added, putting pineapple on a pizza negates said pizza from any longer being a pizza. It may look like a pizza, but that pineapple on it... it sorta changes the rules. Long hair, sweet face, feminine figure... and what have we here? The Crying Game? Well, I don't care what features that character had in common with women: he wasn't a woman, by virtue of the presence of... well, you know. Same thing with pineapples on pizza. It's the Crying Game. I'm telling you.

Nothing secretive about it. I said I was going to do this before you left. And you are one of the "you know who you are" in the opening post.

Not quite. It's like saying "arsenic free water."

Ketchup and tomato sauce are NOT the same thing. Ask any four year old.

Cheetos. Six pack of Jolt. And Pineapple-free pizza. And I ask myself: Self? (Yes?) What would the world be like if ExWay Daryl were straight? Hmmmm...... ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If ExWayDaryl were straight... He and Raf would have gotten into a fight at the ! wedding over a certain nurse. No one would get Raf's showtune references. His pictures of Jen-o would be ... (remainder of this item deleted by former FCC Chairman Michael Powell). Leather sales in Chicago would drop by 43%. Village People CD sales in Chicago would drop by 73%. He'd attend the Radio City Christmas Spectacular every year to see the Rockettes' legs instead of their outfits. That annual parade in Chicago... well, it JUST wouldn't be the same. He'd wear a Fuschia handkerchief: code for, "I'm straight. Stop looking at my behind!" In the Navy, you can sail the seven seas, in the Navy... (thanks to you know who you are for the assist).

I respectfully accept your respectful disagreement. But I don't see not one hint of a self-serving attitude in Jerry Barrax. Not even a little. Not a hint. Nothing. Zip. He's got no followers. He's got no church. He's got no control over anyone. He just sincerely thinks that's what the Bible teaches. I don't assign the same motives to VF as some others here do, but that's me. I also haven't dealt with him since he made this doctrinal change.

I MIGHT be able to come by that weekend. But I'd get there late. And I'd leave the next day.

I'll tell you what really scares me: This thread (as of right now) has NOT been moved to Just Plain Silly. Which means our proprietor must think there's some merit to me taking over the role of Satan. Is Pawtucket really... What the Hay?

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