Raf

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You (like many others) don’t believe the accuracy and integrity of God’s Word is worth your time or the return on the investment of your time.

No, sir, you have me mistaken with the man in your mirror.

If you want to spend the time with me comparing notes on allos and heteros, and comparing them with what Wierwille wrote, I'm game.

Oh, and for the record, I said I did not have the time to try to convince you that your right cheek is of the same kind as your left. Here is my exact quote:

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If you want to convince yourself that your right cheek is of a different kind than your left cheek, be my guest: I've nothing to say about that. Frankly, I have no time whatsoever to discuss it.

Then you wrote:

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And I am not so sure just ‘how’ wrong VPW was to begin with on this issue like you want to believe he was. What I do know is exactly what it would take, and also the amount of time required it would take to prove him wrong on this point. That is the time you yourself said you didn’t have to give to this issue from your last post.

You were either accidentally wrong about what I posted, or deliberately lying and trying to mischaracterize my words. Either way, your mistake is exposed.

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The truth is, it would take a lot of time going into the scriptures and looking up every instance of the words for allos and heteros.

No, that's a lie. It would not take all that much time at all. An hour, maybe two, will establish all you need to know. What I posted earlier only took a few minutes.

But here's what's stupid to me: you declare with zero research that the definitions are fairly consistent. I look into that claim and show they are not. Then you criticize ME for taking the time to look it up.

You should have stopped at "if he's wrong about it, so what?" You were on stronger ground then.

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And I am not so sure just ‘how’ wrong VPW was to begin with on this issue like you want to believe he was.

What further proof do you need, assuming you actually care about the issue?

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So what if VPW was wrong about the meanings for allos and heteros?

Exactly.

They had reported it on the air.

CNN, Reuters and Fox news all reported he'd died, but none had Vatican confirmation (no pun intended).

None.

Best thing to do is check every report and what their sources are. I failed to do that this time, figuring no one would blunder on something this big. Me! And I'm in Florida! :)-->

There was an apparently incorrect report earlier that he had died. I started a thread, and Paw was kind enough to delete it at my request. I apologize for spreading the false alarm.

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Drudge: Italian media gave contradictory reports about Pope John Paul's vital signs on Friday, first saying his heart and brain activity had stopped and then reporting this was not true...

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul's health worsened further on Friday when his breathing became shallow and his blood pressure deteriorated, said the Vatican, and one Italian news agency reported he had lost consciousness.

Church officials tried to prepare the world and its 1.1 billion Roman Catholics for the end of one of the longest papal reigns in history after the Vatican said the long-ailing Pope had declined further hospital treatment.

"The general conditions and cardio-respiratory conditions of the Holy Father have further worsened," said Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls.

"A gradual worsening of arterial hypotension has been noted, and breathing has become shallow. The clinical picture indicates cardio-circulatory and renal insufficiency. The biological parameters are notably compromised."

Sky Italia TV, quoting a report from Italy's Aplomb news agency, said the Pope had lost consciousness but there was no independent confirmation. "There's no hope any more," the ANSA news agency quoted an unidentified medical source as saying.

The 84-year-old Pope received the blessing for the dying after his health suddenly deteriorated overnight, drawing anguished prayers from Catholics around the globe reluctant to accept his end may be near.

"The Holy Father -- with visible participation -- is joining in the continual prayers of those assisting him," said Navarro-Valls.

Catholics flocked to churches to light candles and pray for the man who became Pope in 1978 and revitalised the papacy. Groups of faithful gathered in the Vatican's vast St. Peter's Square, some gazing up at the papal apartments.

If I'm not mistaken, Prince is now a Jehovah's Witness.

LG isn't saying that you or anyone here is intentionally lying. He's saying that whoever originated that information was intentionally lying.

The Pope was given his last rites this afternoon (American time).

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The sacrament does not necessarily mean that the pope is dying. Last rites -- also known as the sacrament of the sick or extreme unction -- are commonly given to people who are seriously ill as well. The pope received the sacrament after he was shot by a would-be assassin in 1981.

CNN

correct!

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Originally posted by Thomas Heller:

Pizza has become an international food since the toppings can be extensively varied to meet local variations in taste.

Agreed.

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These pizzas consist of the same basic design but include an exceptionally diverse choice of ingredients, such as anchovies,

Still a pizza

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egg, pineapple, eggplant, lamb, couscous,

All of those automatically disqualify an oven-baked, flat, usually circular bread covered with tomato sauce and cheese from qualifying any longer as a pizza.

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chicken,

Marginal. One foot in the pizza door, one foot out.

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fish and shellfish,

Look, aside from anchovies, make up your damn mind. If you want fish, order shrimp. You want fish? Order fish. But stop polluting pizza with this carp!

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meats done in ethnic styles

ALL MEATS ARE DONE IN ETHNIC STYLES.

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such as Moroccan lamb, kebab or even chicken tikka masala, and non-traditional spices such as curry and Thai sweet chili.

These people are making my case for me! Although I think there is legal precedent for a kebab exception.

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A "white pizza" (pizza bianca) uses no tomato sauce, often substituting pesto or dairy products such as sour cream.

Okay, that's not a pizza either. That's a hot open sandwich.

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Pizzas with "non-traditional ingredients" are known in the United States as "gourmet pizza" or California-style.

Dude, cool, but not a pizza.

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It is also simple to make pizzas without meat for vegetarians.

Duh!

I was hoping to get a nurse to play her. Alas, neither happened.

"I was the next man."

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Yes Raf, she was eating something and that something is called PIZZA

Dude, I don't care if you call it filet mignon: it's not filet mignon, and it's not a pizza, solely by virtue of it having a pineapple on it. If you try to present me with contradictory information on this, I will have no choice but to DODGE. Dodge, distract, evade, avoid, anything but falsely admit the pizza is a pizza.

THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS!!!!

I WILL NOT CAPITULATE!!

Hey Roomie!

Guys, I'm afraid I will not be able to attend. I'm bummed, but just can't do it.

I will try to make it to Chicago sometime in the next couple of months, though, just for kicks.

and it usually involves an unimaginably hot looking Rebecca DeMornay. Sighhhhhhh.

Okay, I'm better now.

Risky Business

New quote:

"I was the next man."

Danny Glover

Lethal Weapon 3

Rene Russo

Oh, you were defending pineapples?

My bad. I thought you were defending crap. :)-->

I will kiss a lady even after she's had pineapple on bread, mozzarella cheese and tomato sauce. No problem. She just hasn't eaten a pizza, that's all. She's eaten something. She may have enjoyed it, and that's all well and good. But it wasn't a pizza.

Thomas, you poor, sad man...

I don't care HOW many people think crap on pizza is acceptable. The moment you put crap on a pizza, it is no longer a pizza. Look, if you enjoy it, that's your prerogative. Just don't kiss anyone after lunch.

R2 is not a problem: who understands anything he says anyway?

Having Anakin be 3P0's "father" was too silly for words. A nine year old programs a droid fluent in thousands(?) or languages? Hell OOOO!

But I'm okay with Chewie showing up. After all, Ben Kenobi did seem to go straight to him at Mos Eisley in Ep 4.

Some things seem rather inconsistent between the first trilogy and the current one. Will Amidala survive? Don't know. She should, according to the snippet Steve! is quoting. But there are other things that don't make sense either. Kenobi told Luke that his father was already quite a pilot when they met. I doubt the lucky fluke at the end of Phantom Menace makes a 10-year-old slave who's never flown anything before "quite a pilot."

"Your father's lightsabre. He wanted you to have it when you were old enough."

Will that quote pan out? I doubt it, myself.

Ah, who knows. I'm still trying to figure out how hiding Luke on Tatooine with the same surname is an effective way of keeping Vader from finding him. :)-->

Can we agree on certain ground rules, here?

If I put hydrochloric acid on a pizza, is it still a pizza? If I put crap on a pizza, is it still a pizza? If I put sausage on a pizza, is it still a pizza? If I put pepperoni on a pizza, is it still a pizza?

Okay, no on the first two, yes on the second two, right? Okay, so there IS a line. Can't deny it; you've already admitted it. Now we must determine what goes on what side of the line. Mushrooms? That goes on the sausage and pepperoni side of the line. Shoe leather? That goes on the acid and crap side.

Pineapple? Definitely on the shoe leather/acid/crap side of the line.

That's all I'm saying. But I am saying it.

Yessir. Did I do that one already?