Raf
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The Sting
Robert Redford
Indecent Proposal
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I think it means every active TWI member has visited the thread at least once.
;)-->Seriously: it's a 10-page thread so far. Most 10 page threads have a comparable number of views, no? I mean, yes, it seems a little higher than average, but not so much that I'd start trying to figure out why. It's got a lot of hits because people are interested.
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Interesting to note that the Worldwide Church of God now holds to more traditional, "orthodox" beliefs and is no longer considered a cult.
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The Tulsa incident catches little of my attention. Little rides on it as far as I can see.
Only his integrity. Wierwille didn't "get his facts wrong." He LIED about that snowstorm. That snowstorm was pivotal to his story about why he stayed in Tulsa.
There is more evidence that both snowstorms were lies than there is that either snowstorm took place. You can believe the gas pump story if you want, but considering the certainty of the Tulsa lie, I'm confident that the gas pump story was a lie too. I have no reason to believe it. The only evidence of the existence of a snowfall in the gas pump story is the testimony of a man proven to have lied about the Tulsa snowstorm.
Abigail, great post. What the Hay made some good points.
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I had a guess but I was mistaken. Had to cheat to find out I was mistaken, so I'm disqualified from answering.
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In case the mistakes above are unintentional (as I was so hilariously corrected earlier): it's Littlehawk's Pear Juice.
And I think it's legal in one or two states.
Zix,
Thanks for the links and posts.
And to everyone who disagrees with me: I don't think this stuff is harmful, so good luck and enjoy. I'm not even a little convinced about the efficacy of this product, but I've said my peace on it. Thanks for hearing me out, and sorry if I belittled YOU when I intended only to belittle the claims being made.
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Welcome, Jay
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Someone wrote a book explaining that EVERY Stephen King novel, short story and original screenplay is somehow related to his "Dark Tower" series. It's great reading. I'll try to find the name of the book.
In the meantime, Flagg is also the villain in The Eyes of the Dragon. The name is apparently NOT a coincidence.
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Avoiding the no hanging fruit... er, the low hanging fruit from Fatal Attraction...
Anne Archer
Clear and Present Danger
Willem Dafoe
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Richard Dreyfuss
What About Bob
Bill Murray
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My cats don't let me live in their house, but they do let me sleep there eight hours a night. Sometimes more.
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Update
There are still some health concerns: nothing to be easily dismissed. We'll want to pray for his legs on several levels: he's got a situation that still needs healing. He's arguing with one of his doctors (naturally, this is Pat). But he's got time to discuss these things with his doc.
He lost 40 pounds (not a misprint) of fluid, has about 80-100 pounds (not a misprint) to go. Overall health is improving. Hospital food (and the lack of) aggravates him. He had a piece of chicken and some cole slaw for dinner tonight.
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DOH!
PEAR juice!
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I also don't believe in voo-doo, although I've heard there are eyewitnesses who will endorse it.
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Never looked at any of those things with a discerning eye to tell how they are supposed to work and what the claims are, so I don't have an honest answer. I went to a chiropractor in my 20s. He said it would do A, B, and C. It did A. It did not do B or C. I think the "success" of my chiropractic treatment had more to do with the foot pads they had me wear than the little gizmo that snapped on my back three or four times per session. As an eyewitness, my belief is that chiropractic is bunk. But that doesn't mean I have the slightest idea whether or how it works for other people.
I don't know how accupuncture is supposed to work or whether it does. I don't know the mechanics of hypnotism and how that's supposed to work. I've never heard of reflexology until reading your post.
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You haven't tried Littlehawk's pair juice.
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Now that I've got a few minutes...
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Anyway, in a murder trial (and I'm somewhat familiar with them having expended my last dime and last energies trying, unsuccessfully, to assert my mother's right to live where she wanted for the last 12 years of her life, rather than being declared incompetent (and then competent and then incompetent again numerous times as it suited the "powers that be") and slammed into a nursing home out of state for those 12 long years, while Ohio pretended she'd willingly moved to West Virginia so it wasn't their business, and West Virginia ignored the matter by saying that the jurisdiction was Mayfield Heights, Ohio),
What the bloody well does that have to do with murder trials? And why do you feel the need to promote expertise on the subject, as if no one else is familiar with the concept of murder trials. I've covered about a dozen murder trials, a few rape, etc. The trial I cited above was a vehicular homicide case: two people died.
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if two or three witnesses under oath testify that they saw the murderer kill the victum, no amount of "expert testimony" about dna, balistics, whatever, will change that- for one can always find opposing "experts" to say the opposite. And so [and here't the imporant part people, pay close attention]the only way to overcome those two or three eyewitnesses is to find two or three others willing to testify that they saw the same man somewhere else at the same time.
BINGO! Eyewitness testimony is not necessarily reliable. You can tell me that you drank Penta Water and afterward you felt good. But just because B (I felt good) follows A (I drank Penta Water) doesn't mean that A caused B. That's what they call a logical fallacy: post hoc, ergo procter hoc (forgive the misspelling).
I have more than reasonable doubt on Penta Water. I've got eyewitness testimony from you and a few others, and I've got eyewitness testimony from objective sources with no bone to pick who say it doesn't work. With conflicting eyewitnesses, I turn to science, which says this stuff is bunk. Physiologists say it's bunk. MD's say it's bunk. The AMA says it's bunk. Who says it works? Two groups of people: those who are trying to sell it, and those who really want to believe it.
Hey, maybe I'm wrong on this. But you're far, far, far from proving anything about this stuff, except that you believe in it.
$12 a gallon for a placebo? No thanks. I'd rather drink some of Littlehawk's Pair Juice. Now you talk about stuff that works!
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Originally posted by Zshot:IMO,
LCM knew vpw's secrets and was able to blackmail him.
That would imply the others did not know. But they did.
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Something's been creeping into the discussion, and should be stopped:
To oppose Mike or his message is to oppose it, not to fear it or him.
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Raf: I'm sorry to hear your report above, but it does make my point about the power of eyewitness testimony.
David, you're missing my point: the power of eyewitness testimony is its power to deceive.
Thank you for the rest of your post. I'm not here to pass judgment on the manner of other people's posts, including yours, so forgive me for getting into that above.
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Todd,
I don't agree with all you've written, but I appreciate the time you took to write it.
It's late, so I'm only going to answer one point:
If you honestly don't see the difference between telling someone he's wrong and telling him he's lying, then I think you're...
wrong.
:)-->But thanks for the admonishment. I'll keep it in mind.
Oxygen saturated water- To your Health
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I'm glad to hear the cat got better for at least a little while.
My mom once had a daschund(sp?) who lost the use of her hind legs. We were told she would not walk again, and we got the cutest little "wheelchair" for her (she walked with her front legs and wheeled herself along).
We gave her Alpo and tap water, and in six months she was walking again.
Which proves, I suppose, that Alpo and tap water is an incredible combination and must be fed to all dogs and possibly humans immediately. When we do it, people like Chris Reeve will walk again!
Judge for yourself.