Raf

Chas,

We were messing with you. :)-->

Amen, Killer Equestrian!

bandannas signal interests.

For example, if I'm interested in receiving a handshake, I'll wear a transparent bandana in my back pocket.

Other colors signal other, err, interests (see page one of this thread).

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I believe the expression "turn the other cheek" is a figure of speech here in the Word. If that is the case, then the definition VPW provided for allos may (or it may not) be the correct one.

I disagree. The language in the figure still has to be consistent. This is a plain old ordinary every day error.

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But there are certainly much better ways to do a word study than simply point out a scripture in which a particular Greek word appears to prove a particular point.

And yet, that is what VPW did. Quite often, no less.

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Perhaps context and usage in the Word of God defines the meanings of these terms far more than any hard and fast rules someone sets forth?

Precisely, and that includes the hard and fast rules set forth by VPW, which would mean that he was (drumroll please) wrong about the mathematical exactness and scientific precision of the words as he defined them.

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These two definitions seem to be fairly consistent from what I have read. It appears the question lies in which one of those meanings, allos or heteros, is refering to another of the same kind or another of a different kind? I think that is where the inconsistancy lies and where the confusion is steming from?

To answer your first comment, when Jesus says "turn the other cheek," he uses allos, which is inconsistent with Wierwille's definition, your declaration that the usages are "fairly consistent" notwithstanding (unless, of course, Jesus was counting butt cheeks too, but somehow I doubt that). In Luke 4:43, there's a reference to "other cities." Clearly, more than two are involved. But guess which word is used? That's right, heteros, the word that's only supposed to be used when only two are involved. Wrong definition for both words.

As for the rest, we've been going over that through this whole thread!

Wierwille states in the class that allos is another of a different kind, and heteros is another of the same kind. The opposite is true. Wierwille apparently wrote this in the first printing of PFAL, but it is not in subsequent printings.

Cute, Steve!

Can we avoid going right back to the same actor as the previous link, please. :)-->

Albert Finney

Erin Brokovich

Julia Roberts

Well, that settles that. Thank you, Galen.

Clearly, Wierwille got those definitions 100% backwards, and it appears deliberately so (that is, it wasn't just confusing the words and definitions, but actively getting them wrong, misunderstanding their meanings and teaching the wrong thing).

He had to know that Bullinger taught the opposite definitions. I refuse to ascribe idiocy to him.

You know what I say...

Better the fakiest blush...

and in other news...

Actual line in a story I edited today about a gay/lesbian country western dance convention:

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Dancers choose partners based on a “bandana code” system. A red bandana in the back pocket is an invitation to waltz. Orange is West Coast Swing, yellow is Cha Cha, and so on. People agree on a dance, or color, and head to the floor.

None of the straight people in the office understood why I was laughing so hard. The gay folks laughed harder.

Paging Karl Kahler. Greasespot Cafe paging occasional customer Karl Kahler. Please respond...

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Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man...living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time.

But he loves you!

He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.

George Carlin

They put me down as "barely Yankee."

The nerve!

Grassy a--

umm, I meant, Gracias.

I expect Galen will confirm what everyone's been saying on that topic.

I don't think you offended anyone (certainly not me). :P-->

Coming Soon:

Law and Order: Meter Maids

CSI: Antarctica

16 (from the producers of 24: a show about people who actually spend eight hours a day sleeping)

I thought they already made a black version of the Honeymooners. It was called "Roc," and it did.

Excuse me, that's CSI: New York.

CSI: Baghdad will take place in a suburb of Detroit after a Pistons game every week.

Oh WAIT! STRIDER!

It's about walking!

The Long Walk Home

A Walk To Remember

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me

A Walk In The Clouds

Walk on Water

Walk This Way

Walk Like A Man

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

Walk

I Walk the Line

Walk Proud

Walk Tall

Walking Tall

Talking Wall

Walk Like A Dragon

I'm Walkin, Yes Indeed, I'm Talkin...

Galen, I had a question for you. Can you PT me or check the "Deceptive Distinctions" thread?

Oh, of COURSE! How STUPID of me!

The Goonies

According to the official rule book, the rule on TV miniseries is OW! Hey, that hurt! get your hands off of me! My eyes! My eyes! Aaaaaaaaargh! I needed those knuckles!!!

Hey, you! Get back here with that rulebook!

Molly Ringwald

The Breakfast Club

Judd Nelson

Sharon,

This is intended to be lighthearted and fun (some might say "just plain silly)... EWD has our respect and, evidently, quite the sense of humor. No seriousness was intended or implied in the starting of this thread.

Cold turkey. No patches, gums, sticks, needles, or... cigarettes.

I've found that I get more headaches. That nomal? Or coincidental?

Actually, it's a bit more mellow than before.

Now why didn't I think of that?

Two weeks without nicotine.

I only kind of want to kill some people now.