templelady

HOpe your day os filled with happiness HAppy Birthday

MO

YOu have a wonderful day

MO

YEs happiest of days to you both

MO

Forgiveme--I've been away--But do I understand correctly from PAt's post that DOnna IS still called the "wife of the President"??!!??? isn;t she the "wife of the resigned president"???

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Happy Birthday

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

THe "Lost the Holy SPirit" is VPW at his worst.

THere is nowhere where CHrist Is shown Losing THe Holy Spirit--In fact if he lost it--how was he able to sent "the Comforter" at Pentacost?

Did he go to the Lost and Found Dept of HEaven???

DO you really think that GOd would take the Holy Spirit from his SOn when He Most Needed it?

DO you Think Christ was so careless has to Leave The HS somewhere on a rock in Gesthemane??

I just reread this and it sounds like I'm angry--I am but not at you Oakspear--Angry at VPW --LCM and TWI etal for promoting such devilish doctrine

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

When I hear people talk about how bloody It was I remember that the OT says he was no longer recognizable as A man.

THe was a painting done by a Believerf in TWI of the Crucifiction showing Christ on the Cross in profile--done in Reds and Oranges it was meant to portray the crucifiction in a less sanatized way--

I alwys liked that picture--does anyne know what I am talking about???

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Dear members of TWI who are Chuckleheads (those TWI who are not Chuckleheads can ignore this )

Please read carefully

Without CHrist's torture and pain there would be no blood sacrifice for our sins

Without Christ's death there could be no resurrection

Without the Ressurrection there would be no Holy Spirit,or eternal life.

TO ignore the tremendous Gift that Christ gave us by willingly undergoing the pain , suffering & agony that was emotional , physical and spritual we negate the tremendous cost of the gift

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Hummingbird eggs are those tiny jelly beans

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Okay the season is approaching So what is your favorite Easter candy!!

Peeps--got to be yellow and got to be baby chicks

CAdbury--fruit and nut eggs

Hummingbird eggs

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

HMMMM--

I always figured that I was their CUrse------

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

THere are some doctrines that are particular to TWI those need to be kept here especially if they are in a thread that is discussing those doctrines and the impact they had on folks lives.

Put once we go from Doctrines particular to TWI and start having a theological discussion it probably needs to move elsewhere.

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

I Am Not a baseball fan--BUt I am a diehard Seattle MAriners fan.

Let me explain--most of you know I live and Work in a residential hotel. In the staff living room we have cable TV and I work with two Mariners fan, SO during BAseball seasOn we watch all the Mariners games.

I like to quilt or do needlework in front of the TV. So I had three choices

I could not watch TV during Games

I could stay and do my needlework and grit my teeth

I could watch the games and learn a little about baseball

I opted for # 3 and before you know it I was hooked on The MAriners--

So this year I am cheering for Seattle but I am still not a baseball fan

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

happiest of Bdays!!!

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

HAppy

;)--> Birthday

RAlph D

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

yes happiest of Birthdays

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

for me the resurrection scene was just unbelievable. SO much message in those few scenes.

As for Caiphus

He was the High Priest--the ONLY person among all of the members of the Jewish faith who could enter the Holy of Holies and speak to GOD "Face to face"

Caiphus knew all the prophecies --he knew a Messiah would be coming And He and His fellow Sanhedrin Knew THE DAY IT HAPPENED THE JOB OF HIGH PRIEST WOULD BECOME OBSOLETE!!

That's right no more Cushy Board seats, No more Drambuie, NO more luxi---Oops got sidetracked there :o-->

But what Caiphus expected --what almost everyone expected-- was that the Messiah would free them, not spiritually, but free them from Roman rule.

So Caiphus was expecting Jesus to Lead an Uprising that would sweep the Romans from power --with Jesus emerging as the New High priest with all the "goodies" that went with the office--the goodies that heretofore had been the property of Caiphus and CO.

That is why Caiphus explained Jesus" alleged crimes in political terms to Pilate--because that's where Caiphus was at. Jesus dead = no uprising = Caiphus safe and secure as high Priest.

The shock of Caiphus as he sees the rent Veil and crumbling wall of the Holy of Holies brought home just what an impact this event must have had on Jewish Life.

As I sat in that theater The violent persecution of The early Christians by Paul and the other members of the Sanhedrin who set out to kill all "Christians" assumed a whole new dimension--

This wasn't a fight over "heretical" doctrine but a fight for their very survival.

Can you imagine; as word spread throughout the World that the Holy of Holies was no longer cut off, that GOD was no longer limited to the High Priest and a select few; what happed to the money changers- the sellers of sacrificial animals- the fees for the mikvas?

Sales must have dropped dramatically--even those who did not profess Christianity, very well may have doubted the wisdom of financially supporting A High Priest -when he was no longer really needed.

Caiphus' worst nightmare had come true--and at his own hand-- now the scramble to restore that which he had lost and failing that to maintain what was left--

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Spirit never dies--It is the part that belongs to GOD

Flesh and BOne on the other hand returns to dust.

When you die your spirit returns to the spritual realm where it stays with all the other Spirits

WHen Christ Died He made it possible for us to be reunited with our Flesh and Blood bodies

When CHrist DIed on the Cross the Spirits of the dead were released

When Christ returns we will be rejoined, spirit an body to be judged.

After the judgement we will either have Eternal Life with jesus Christ and GOd

or we won't

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

I finally got to see "TPOC" this afternoon.

I watched the whole thing (no ducking for the Worst scenes) I came away with a greater appreciation of just how great the sacrifice was.

As for children seeing it--

NOt below the age of 14

15-16 If they have a good basic understanding not only of the gospels but the reality of roman society and it's mores.

17 on it's pretty much up to them.

I noticed earlier in this thread someone questioned wether in fact the Sanhedrin would have been out the night before passover.

Several weeks ago (and I guesss just recently) Discovery Channel ran a program about Caiphus as an historical figure Vis-Vis the Bible.

To make a long story short Caiphus and a few of his select cronies in the Sanhedrin (probably the same bunch that assembled that night) HAd control of All the Money-changing, Sacrificial Animals, and several LArge ritual Mikvas (baths)

What that meant is when you came to the Temple in Jerusalem (which was a big deal most people only made it there once a year if they didn't live in the city) YOu CHanged your money at an exchange favorale to the money changers, You paid for a ritual bath and You paid for your sacrifcial Animals. All Proceed went into Caiphus' and Compnays OWN POCKETS. Not the temple fund

So when CHrist entered Jerusalem and Went to the temple with a whip and started overturning tables--It was Caiphus' livelihood he was messing with. And When Christ said "YOU have turned my Fathers house into a den of Theives...."" he wasn't speaking generically he was in fact thowing the gauntlet, so to speak, right in CAiphus face for all Jerusalem to hear.

SOmething to think about

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

**MAure is standing on her purple velvet and jewel encrusted soapbox**

TO persons that are remaining in TWI because their Spouse won't leave.

I submit that:

if you are miserable at least part of every week,

If you can't share you heart openly and honestly with the person you married,

If you feel like you are alone in your marriage,

If you are going through the motions to fulfill what you perceive is your "duty" but joy and happiness is missing most of the time

If you make decisions based on what others want and mandate disregarding your own wants and feelings on a consistant basis.

IF even two of these are true ----YOU NO LONGER HAVE A FUNCTIONING MARRIAGE

Not By Secular Standards NOR By Biblical Standards ( Reread Ephesians)

YOU have two Choices::

YOu can continue to be Miserable--and therfore hinder your own growth--as well as not being terribly effective in helping others

OR You can take the plunge--pick a quiet time sit and talk to your spouse about how you feel and then present concrete actions you intend to take if things are not rectified.

THis is VERY hard and Very Scarey, and you feel like you are jumping off a cliff without a parachute.

But you must ask yourself the question Is it better to stay on the cliff and continue to "Starve" or jump and get the chance to perhaps create a wonderful life

THere are no blanket right answers.

But think about it --- PLEASE---

**MAure leaving soapbox**

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Snow hit Ancorage yesterday--fine white flakes, We are on the verge of Melt temp so it turns slushy then freezes then we get more snow etc---supposed to go on through next week

Good for the Iditarod races

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Oh My you brought back memories CW. Remember when we had to clean S---- & P---- A--------'s place on the laKE?? Never seen such dirt--I was in the kitchen--

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Yes MIke I read the whole thing --I knew about Dr's last teaching--I was "in" when the whole SHeebang collapsed --I it took me and my family with it.

Less is more

Christ managed to get the essence of the entire Gospel across in the Sermon on the Mount

It isn't the amount of Verbage that counts

Words stand or fall on their own

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

Oh, I shouldn't have read this thread-- I think I need to avoid "MIke THreads" Not anything personal but my head is aching--Just Like It did when I had to listen in TWI.

PAragraph after paragraph not really saying anything--YOu could distill the essence of it all into 20 lines.

Obvously TWI means A Lot to you , MIke and that is great--But could you condense things just a little --PLease___

MO

(who Used to be Maure)

THe great window washing --start your own business scam

DOn't know where else it was --but the big thing here in Alaska was you didn't want to work for unbelievers so you were to start your own business washing outside windows or housepainting.

HAd three or four guys quit their jobs--move to the Kenai and Start a windoww ashing business--

Remember they would go on and on about how they now had time to "move the Word"--

Then a year down the road hardly anyone acknowledged the great window washing company. By then I was in problem of my own.

But I can assure you that you can't live in Alaska by just washing outside windows--7 months of the year there just isn't any work

MO

(who Used to be Maure)