Lifted Up

I think we lost John...hey whered'ya go????

I think one reason Pete made such an impression on me is that I had never seen anyone who had gone through such a horrible experience...that is being burned so badly. Seeing pictures, no matter how horrible, is not the same. Yet he kept going for so long. Yea, I know about the trigger word thing; evidently in this case it is Pete's last name.

For whomever evidently shared some memories of Pete (This thread was listed as having two responses), your sharings are not there anymore; I was just wondering who else shared my memories.

To whomever evidently shared some memories of Pete (This thread was listed as having two responses), your posts are not there anymore; I was just wondering who else shared my memories.

Yea...good to hear. Steve was one of us Indy people. Besides some other activities together, I rode back to Emporia after Christmas with him...we had a breakdown and didnt make it in time...heh heh.

Lessee, did I make it?? Does it matter? HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HAWK!!!!!!!!

Last year after Pete Klee was terribly burned in a fire, I had the experience of visiting him and watching him fight. Sure, we can forever debate the question, "why didn't he make it?" after surviving for so long when he wasn't given much chance of making it more than a few days. Or conversely, if he wasn't going to survive, why was the fight so prolonged? We don't know all the answers. But the impression he made on me and others was a gift from him. Some of us...perhaps most of us...go through some tough times. There is always a temptation to give up. Well Pete had the toughest of tough times and taught me a little lesson about complaining...something I tend to do at times. Also, the visit taught me something about praying. I just think his fight is worth remembering, for me at least...and I know for some others as well. His birthday December 7th is a good day to remember.

OK, Hawk, since we got together again on the 7th corps thread, I wonder if we should visit home once in a while??

Hey Hawk, since we can't seem to get anyone to join us on the 8th corps thread, maybe we outta take over the 7th corps. Just kidding, John. Diedre Flick was another of those 7th corps I remember meeting, but only briefly...I knew the name well, though. Of course, everyone in the 8th corps knew Rob Kehoe very well...

Well, I'm sure nobody was buzzing about me, for several reasons. I had just been put on LOA....with the change in scenery for everyone after the break during our last residence year, I doubt anyone would have missed me anyway...also after coming through the experience I neither made a triumphant return, nor made noise on the other side. Also, I was a fairly quiet corps member anyway, making my big splashes as Super Conqueror (First residence year but leftover from Indy), The Pope (final residence year HALLOWEEN party), or the retemory expert (I was once reprooved by JT and HQ for being able to memorize so much but not being able to remember my shadow appointment with him.) As far as the "event" itself, I was basically lured into the fateful basement (too much trust) then shown the circumstances...i.e. those who would dissuade me from attemptin to leave.

Successfully deprogrammed???? That question has a complicated answer and I will get to it soon when I have more time. No, I never knew how much they handed out to have it done, but I may have a few comments on that too. They did not physicall hurt me, beyond physically restraining me near the start of things. But, beyond then, I did not physically resist...again something else to go into in more detail. Because of some of my answers to the above questions, I do not think my experience would warrent a book. I think, for some reason, that some see my testimony of my deprogramming as being a bad experience as detracting from what an "ex-cult" member should be doing in their view...detailing the evils of the TWI experience. Just an opinion of mind...perhaps started about two and a half years ago when someone who has done just that in print...and had declared a desire to hear from those who went through a deprogramming...seemed to avoid me like the plague after I had given my account. More to come...though I am not sure it's right to fill this wonderful 7th corps thread with my account. Maybe I will e-mail you on it.

Yea, in December 1979, right after I had been put on LOA from the 8th corps...see above. Interesting thing at ROA 1979, my last. I had never met or talked with Barrie Hill, though I knew well of her deprogramming and return, having listened to the tape. Seemingly out of nowhere she walked up to me and struck up a conversation...right now I cannot even remember what we talked about. How much do you want to know? I have my oroginal Waydale deprogramming threads, courtesy of Paw and PamSanDiego. I could start a new thread and rehash, or find me at smile092850@hotmail.com; I would be glad to fill you in. No, it wasn't Ted Patrcik in my case, but I was forcefully held. As mentioned above, being 8th, I never knew a lot of 7th corps. One couple, J&N A. ran my PFAL class at Indy before they went in, and it was JA who got me thinking about going itno the corps, without suggesting it directly. Of course, I was in res at Emporia with Hope for the few months of her last residence year that she spent there. You must be a Star Wars fan. Hey, be sure to watch "Constricted" if and when it is released next year. I hear Mark Hamill does a good job as Rod Steiger's replacement.

I was assigned to go to Gunnison after Christmas "break", during my final 8th corps residence year. However, a little later, while I was still at HQ, I was told I was being put on LOA. Then...that deprogramming.

Happy Birthday! Just a few hours to go.

So that is what the place looked like...I was supposed to be headed there after Christmas 1979...but got a little sidetracked.

Okay, if I can't get Hawk in here, maybe I can yank in OC by the tail.

I hope it is a big one...for you and your loved ones. Gotta be beautiful country out there!

Have a happy anniversary all year!!!

It's just about here.... Have the greatest day of your life. Thanks for all, and know that you are thought of.

Did I come back for nought?

I mean HHHHAAAAWWWWWKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!

Why don't you come across the northern route...say I90...and stop in here? I am at I90 and I29...so you can always get to NE in a hurry.

Hey Haw...have we lost even you??? Yoooo...

I hope this a day to remember...with smiles of course. I have been seeing more of you around lately and I like that.

I think so. Yea, me saying "I think so" may sound strange, but after 25 years, my memory might be a little fuxxy in some areas.