Is it a recompense of our error or what?

[year2027]

God first and last

Is it a recompense of our error or what?

Beloved Friends

God bless you all. I ask myself is it recompense of our error or what? Why do I see major Hurricane after hurricane hitting the world. Is it a sign of the end of the world coming or is it because of sin?

I just do not know why so many Hurricanes and other things are happen more these day. But what I do know is that my heart goes out to the ones who lost family members, friends, homes, businesses, jobs, churches, and many other things of great value.

Yes my heart goes out as I sat thinking how sad it makes me feel and all I can do is pray for so many people. So I ask you to join me in pray for the many needs .

With love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

[Jim]

Judge for yourself:

http://www.unep.org/geo/yearbook/yb2004/112a.htm

[lindyhopper]

Recompense for our error?

I guess it's those southern coastal cities with all the error and corruption. Thank God I live here in CO which, judging by the occuance of natural disasters, is where He apparently thinks we are living a nearly perfect life.

[year2027]

God first and last

Beloved Jim

God bless your loving heart

thanks I enjoy the link

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved lindyhopper

God bless your loving heart

I would say if its a recompense of error It would be more what the world done to make the Ocean warm up

Could it be glorbal warning and did we cause it by trying to play God or get more and more money without any thinking of what hard we do to the world

I do not know?

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

[George Aar]

Well, I think we should all pray, real hard:

Oh Lord, please don't finish the job that you are so want to do, PLEASE!

Amen

[wingnut]

One word Lindy

BLIZZARD

[Bob]

Massachusetts hasn't been hit hard by a hurricane in over a decade.

Guess Yahweh approves of gay marriages...

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[LG]

quote:

Originally posted by George Aar:

Well, I think we should all pray, real hard:

I think we should sacrifice a virgin. Isn't that what folks used to do to appease the volcano gods?

[WhiteDove]

quote:

Originally posted by Bob:

Massachusetts hasn't been hit hard by a hurricane in over a decade.

Guess Yahweh approves of gay marriages...

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Maybe He thought that was enough of a disaster for them they didn't need any more.

[GarthP2000]

quote:

Maybe He thought that was enough of a disaster for them they didn't need any more.

Only for the women who originally thought that they could marry the guys that turned out to be gay. :D-->

Reminds me of that one particular female complaint about "why is it that all the good men are either already married or gay?"

[Raf]

quote:

Could it be glorbal warning and did we cause it by trying to play God or get more and more money without any thinking of what hard we do to the world

Every time they ask Max Mayfield at the National Hurricane Center whether global warming contributed to this, he gets a really annoyed look on his face. It's probably because he really wants to say, No already. Get a science textbook and stop asking me!

[mj412]

Goerge Im still in love with you.

lol I aint saying that prayer with you either.

and sorry but i still love God. and He must love you.

No God isnt doing this evolution is!!! next year we are all going to morph into being able to swim a 110 miles an hour. WE will have wind breakers that in front of us that propell all winds back to Colorado. or somewhere that needs to evolve like us!

right?

[templelady]

It rains on the Just and unjust alike

also earthquakes

cyclones

tornados

floods

hurricanes

volcanos

wind storms

blizzards

ice storms

and any other natural disaster you can think of

I remember watching a show several years back on one of the learning channels about New Orleans Vis A Vis Lake Pontchitrain [sic] levees, and the Mississippi. THey knew then they were in trouble and were reinforcing as fast as they could.

THere are no really safe places including COlorado --Because if Yellowstone goes Colorado will be right behind.

Just part of life on this world --old things pass away or changee to make way for new things--no matter how adept we become in predicting what will happen where, we will never have the power to stop it from happening.

[mstar1]

quote:

I ask myself is it recompense of our error or what? Why do I see major Hurricane after hurricane hitting the world. Is it a sign of the end of the world coming or is it because of sin?

I don't pretend to know Roy, scientists who study these things are in disagreement, even some of the 'global warming' ones are saying that it is not the cause of these hurricanes, others of course are on the other side.....

Here is something that you may appreciate Roy

August 20th--Hopi Elders Say Earth Changes Are Upon Us--

[sirguessalot]

what is it, really

to die as a world together

but to be reborn?

the unborn babe is always doomed

it seems

to run out of time

to run out of room

to the innocent

we are always nearing "the bloody end"

and so who can blame them for not knowing the joy waiting just around the bend?

if we are "in sin"

we are incomplete

unfinished

but on our way

be it the many sins of a tiny me

or the vast sin of a vast vast we

and so yes, Roy

perhaps it is the recompense of our "error"

and so yes, perhaps the creator is both just and merciful

in that our error and our sin is in simply being only "half-baked," as of yet

the womb has stretched

but will not grow any further

yet we keep growing and growing

pushing the limits

in waves

one after another

we grow in waves

most i meet hate this place, usually

and want out of it, like a silly babe

what is it to be born again?

but to die

as a world

or as an i

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have no fear

peace on earth

goodwill towards all

[year2027]

God first and last

Beloved George Aar

God bless your loving heart

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved wingnut

God bless your loving heart

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Bob

God bless your loving heart

thanks

Maybe Aids is enought for recompense for their error

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Long Gone

God bless your loving heart

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved WhiteDove

God bless your loving heart

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved GarthP2000

God bless your loving heart

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Raf

God bless your loving heart

thanks

maybe he just does not know enought to answer

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved mj412

God bless your loving heart

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved templelady

God bless your loving heart

thanks

Yes bad things come to the just and the unjust and what the just and the unjust do takes it tow on our earth

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved mstar1

God bless your loving heart

thanks

Yes I like that link

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Sirguessalot or Todd

God bless your loving heart

thanks

Yes the earth trying to get out of the womb of God

until that great day of birth

until the earth and heaven are born new or might I say recreated

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

[year2027]

God first and last

Beloved All

God loves you all

This was shared with me on another board since it a patsed from a web site I will not give the board but it tells were to find it

Some may like it

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Below are THREE EXTRACTS related to this. The first was

published by Koenigs International News - and is quite chilling:

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"TEN MAJOR EVENTS Related to U.S./ ISRAEL"

-Koenigs 6/12/02.

1. October 30, 1991: The Perfect Storm - As President George

H. W. Bush is opening the Madrid (Spain) Conference to consider

"land for peace" in Israel's Middle East role, the "perfect storm"

develops in the North Atlantic, creating the largest waves ever

recorded in that region. The storm travels 1000 miles from "east to

west" instead of the normal "west to east" pattern and crashes into

the New England Coast. Thirty-five foot waves crash into the

Kennebunkport home of President Bush.

2. August 23, 1992: Hurricane Andrew - When the Madrid Conference

moves to Washington DC and the peace talks resume, Hurricane

Andrew, the worst natural disaster ever to hit America, comes ashore

and produces an estimated $30 billion in damage and leaving 180,000

homeless in Florida.

3. January 16, 1994: Northridge Earthquake - President Bill Clinton

meets with Syria's President Hafez el-Assad in Geneva. They talk

about a peace agreement with Israel that includes giving up the Golan

Heights. Within 24 hours, a powerful 6.9 earthquake rocks Southern

California. This quake, centered in Northridge, becomes the second

most destructive natural disaster to hit the United States, behind

Hurricane Andrew.

4. January 21, 1998: Lewinsky Scandal - Israeli Prime Minister

Benjamin Netanyahu meets with President Clinton at the White House

and is coldly received. Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine

Albright refuse to have lunch with him. Shortly afterwards on that day,

the Monica Lewinsky scandal breaks into the mass media and begins

to occupy a major portion of Clinton's time.

5. September 28, 1998: Hurricane George - As Secretary of State

Albright works on the final details of an agreement in which Israel

would give up 13 percent of Yesha (Judah and Samaria), Hurricane

George slams into the United States Gulf Coast with 110 mph winds

and gusts up to 175 mph. The hurricane hits the coast and stalled.

On September 28, Clinton meets with Yasser Arafat and Netanyahu

at the White House to finalize this land deal. Later, Arafat addresses

the United Nations about declaring an independent Palestinian state

by May 1999, as Hurricane George pounds the Gulf Coast, causing

$1 billion in damage. At the exact time that Arafat departs the

country, the storm begins to dissipate.

6. October 15-22, 1998: Texas Flooded - On October 15, 1998,

Arafat and Netanyahu meet at the Wye River Plantation in Maryland.

The talks are scheduled to last five days with the focus on Israel

giving up 13 percent of Yesha. The talks are extended and conclude

on October 23. On October 17, awesome rains and tornadoes hit

southern Texas. The San Antonio area is deluged with rain. The rain

and flooding in Texas continue until October 22 and then subside.

The floods ravage 25 percent of Texas and leave over one

billion dollars in damage. On October 21, Clinton declares this

section of Texas a major disaster area.

7. November 30, 1998: Market Capitalization Evaporates - Arafat

comes to Washington again to meet with President Clinton to raise

money for a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. A total

of 42 other nations were represented in Washington. All the nations

agreed to give Arafat $3 billion in aid. Clinton promised $400 million,

and the European nations $1.7 billion. On the same day, the Dow

Jones average drops 216 points, and on December 1, the European

Market had its third worst day in history. Hundreds of billions of

market capitalization were wiped out in the U.S. and Europe.

8. December 12, 1998: Clinton is Impeached - As Clinton lands in the

Palestinian-controlled section of Israel to discuss the "land for peace"

process, the House of Representatives votes four articles of

impeachment against him.

9. May 3, 1999: The Powerful Super Tornado - On the day that

Yasser Arafat is scheduled to declare a Palestinian state with

Jerusalem as the capital, the most powerful tornado storm system

ever to hit the United States sweeps across Oklahoma and Kansas.

The winds are clocked at 316 mph the fastest wind speed ever

recorded. The declaration is postponed to December 1999 at the

request of President Clinton, whose letter to Arafat encourages him

in his "aspirations for his own land." He also writes that the

Palestinians have a right to "determine their own future on their own

land" and that they deserve to "live free, today, tomorrow and forever."

10. Week of October 11: Hurricane, Earthquake and Dow Collapse -

As Jewish settlers in 15 West Bank (Israel) settlements are evicted

from the covenant land in Israel, the Dow-Jones financial averages lose

5.7 percent in the worst week since October 1989. On October 15 the

Dow lost 266 points, and a hurricane slams into North Carolina. On the

next morning, October 16, a magnitude 7.1 earthquake rocks the

southwest in the fifth most powerful earthquake in 20th Century. The

earthquake was centered in the California desert and did little damage

but was felt in three states.

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"In John McTernan and my book, "Israel the Blessing or the Curse,"

we identify events that occur on the same-day Israel was strongly

advised or forced to give up her covenant land by the United States

or others. The above gives one an idea of the magnitude of these

events."

-Koenig's International News - http://watch.org

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(2) From 'Olive Tree Ministries':

What you won't hear anywhere is that this week New Orleans was

to observe "Southern Decadence Day" with 100,000 homosexuals

gathering there to commit unspeakable acts in public. Previous

events were photographed and sent to the mayor and police officials

but they did not care. They had their own lust: The $100,000,000

the event brings in.

Gambling casinos took a hit on the coast as this is where the eye

of the storm hit.

And as America forced Israelis out of parts of their land, hurricane

Katrina was building in the Atlantic. A Fox reporter said, "It must

be an emotional experience (for Americans) to walk away from

their homes and not ever live in them again." Same with those

forced out in Israel. Israeli homes are being demolished as Gulf

Coast homes are demolished.

This was America's greatest "evacuation." Now we have "refugees".

Israelis were evacuated and many are refugees living in tents and

refugee centers, thanks to America. The Israeli uprooting will affect

their entire economy in that some of their finest produce which was

exported is now left behind.

America's economy could face a steep recession as oil processing

refineries were damaged. Plan to see price increases within days.

Will this bring our economy down? Major industries will be affected

from food delivery, jet fuel, travel, insurance, and so much more

with the "ripple effect" of skyrocketing gas prices.

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(3) "We REAP What we SOW"

-by Amy Methvin.

I am going out on a limb with what I am about to say. It may strike

a nerve, and I am sorry if that does happen. But in these days

people must hear the TRUTH, even if it is uncomfortable. I knew,

as this country has pushed the "roadmap to peace" in Israel that

for our country there would be dire consequences. And as I

watched the people of Gaza Strip driven from their homes, I knew

in my spirit there would be very swift (within a few weeks at

best) consequences for our country. In case you don't know, the

USA is the driving force behind these agreements.

I just wasn't prepared for the obvious parallel in reaping what we

sowed. It was just a couple of weeks ago, that we watched the

people of Gaza driven, weeping, from their homes. They were

forced to leave their homes on and near the sea, as their

government then came in and bulldozed those homes. Where

are these people now? They are in government shelters and

government housing. They are basically homeless.

Now look at our situation. Our neighbors on and near the sea have

been driven from their homes and their homes have been destroyed.

They, too, are weeping and homeless, dependent on the

government. One can scoff and say that this is just coincidence,

but there are no coincidences in the Lord. The Bible says that we

reap what we sow, and that those who bless Israel will be blessed,

and those who curse Israel will be cursed. I have been told by

several people that government officials (even up to the VERY top)

have been warned of the consequences of forcing Israel to give up

land. And I believe that would be like the Lord to warn first.

However, our government did not heed the warning, but pressed on

with what seemed right in their own eyes. I hope this will give us

all better understanding of the verses in Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in

the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own

understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will

make your paths straight." If you need Scripture for a confirmation

of "recompense" for removing Israel from its territory, see Joel 3.

Even in the midst of this destruction here in our country and for

those in Israel, God is at work. He CAUSES all things to work

together for good for those who are called according to His

purposes. Many will call upon His Name during these days and

be saved. So pray that people will open their eyes and call upon Him.

I certainly don't pretend to know all the ways of the Lord, but this

seemed pretty easy to discern. In these days let us all seek the

Lord while He can still be found. My love to you all.

~Amy Methvin.

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still thinking about it

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

[Bob]

quote:

still thinking about it

No.

The only thing predictable (prophetic if you will) is people associating the hurricane with God's wrath for [put ungodly action of your choice here].

Why ignore the obvious? Hurricanes are a naturally occurring event. It was known long ago that a major hit to the city would damage the dykes and flood the city. It wasn't a matter of if, but when.

Just because the laws of probability caught up with them doesn’t mean god/alah/yahweh/rah/seth/zeus was dealing out wrath for the people committing xxx.

Has there ever been a natural disaster where the prophets of doom didn’t come crawling out of the woodwork?

[Raf]

Roy,

The guy's life is studying how hurricanes work, why they're as intense as they are, etc. Maybe he doesn't know enough about the subject? Yeah.

The alarmists are coming out of the woodwork, blaming this on global warming. The people who study hurricanes told us a year ago that this was part of a regular cycle and we should be ready for it. Instead, we listen to the alarmists who suddenly find hurricanes an interesting topic because it fits their pet theories on how we're destroying ourselves. I'm not denying global warming, but to think that it's responsible for a Category 5 hurricane ignores the fact that we've had Cat 5's before, and we'll have them again even if we stop spraying our underarms, running our air conditioners and filling up our gas tanks for the rest of our lives.

[year2027]

God first and last

Beloved Bob

God bless your heart

What is natural weather?

No one can say one way or another. We just have not been studing then long enought

But what is natural in people to be born whole or not whole?

We learn that drugs caused children to be born uncomplete or not the way God created them

So why not weather

but this is just me and you can believe what you want

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Raf

God bless your heart

One thing to note science have not been studing hurricanes long enough to say they come in regular cycles this earth is over 6,000 years old but how many years have hurricanes been studed maybe how many years 50, 100, 200, 300, 1,000 but some say only 50 years

So I nor you can not say how a hurricane should naturally work

I just believe what I know to be true in my heart as you do

I believe what I hear God tell but I still listen to science

You believe science but have you talk it over with God

Because I know you love God and spend time talking to God

But God can only answer questions we ask him

and you believe as you see best as I will

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

[Raf]

That's a great way to dismiss every scrap of knowledge that comes your way.

[year2027]

God first and last

Beloved Raf

God bless your heart

I guess you are talking to me

No I blindly believe most of what I hear on TV just like most people or read on the Net

Now science have taught me that when the waters warms up that makes some things happen

But what caused the water to warm and is it warming more these days than before

Science most of the time help me learn what questions to ask God

Because only God tells the truth all the time

science have proved many things but they can only see the tip of the ice were God was there and he the one that made it all happen

So I go to him but some times I only ask in part because I can only understand a small amount of it

peace now

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

[Raf]

quote:

Now science have taught me that when the waters warms up that makes some things happen

But what caused the water to warm and is it warming more these days than before

You can't be arbitrary about this. If "science" teaches you that things happen when waters warm up, then you should learn something from the scientists who study hurricanes when they say no, this storm was not caused or intensified by global warming. We've had Cat 5's before, and we'll have them again, global warming or no.

[Raf]

Science teaches me that when you have a great big hunk of metal, it will be more dense than air and therefore will stay on the ground. MORE SCIENCE teaches me that when you shape that hunk of metal a certain way and fuel it the right way, you can turn it into an airplane and it will lift off the ground.

Listen to more science, Roy, and you will see the relationship of global warming to hurricanes.

[year2027]

God first and last

Beloved Raf

God bless your loving heart

I been thinking long and hard before I could begin to answer you on this.

My friend its plan we will never see eye to eye on science. I believe only part of what they teach as truth but I believe all what God teaches.

The reason is science views change over time just like carbon dating they once taught it for dating but now they have found other ways to date things.

We know God said he does not changed.

You see I believe science on how hurricanes form but not why. And then there is why the need for hurricanes. Some say to cool the oceans but why are the oceans warming up more these days.

You see science just gives me more questions like the old lie that man came from apes and then were did apes come from and so on. But all this teaches me about how things can changed over time but I only see it within kinds.

Yes there things that happen in the heaven and some are natural and others may be caused by things we do. Like the things we put in orbit called satellites they may or may not changed the balance of things.

But I believe its like the Christmas movie with James Steward in it about when an Angle came and show him what would happen if he was never born. One life touches many lives over time.

Just like if the WOW’s that witness to me was not send to Ky would I still be alive today or would I ever join the Way to get friends like you.

I believe everything effects everything and one can try this put a piece of wood in a sink and let the water drip the water will changed the wood over time. Now with the earth it would be the same way but on a must larger scale.

If I spray my yard with gas all my life over time this gas kills the grass then it leaks into the water table making that water bad to drink over time but if I spray the grass with plant food the grass make the grass grow faster and stronger.

Now this is all I want to say but I do not want to hurt your feeling or push my beliefs on you just share with you my views.

Thanks and peace

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy