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I GOT NOTHING.

Calvin J Candie is what gave it away.

If their pro-abortion stance would be problematic for today’s movement, their John-Birchy flat-earthiness might just be enough for a second look and possible seat at the theocratic table.

Pro-choice? Hardly. It was never about a choice. Pro-abortion is a more mathematically accurate and scientifically precise description. Abortion was merely a rational and practical method deployed to mitigate risk of reputational and financial loss.

Thank you WordWolf. Please explain what the error in doctrine is. If you like, please post what iAsk says what Mary veneration actually is, so we may proceed with the same frame of reference. Thx.

I didn't believe in striking the guy's name since it was his idea in the first place, but whatever Raf wants to do with this thread is fine by me.

Yes. Among the other names was the eponymous character in The Great Gatsby.

(Yes, I think it was crazy to post this in the sub forum in which it started. That was just BEGGING for a flame post...which would have been on subject for the sub forum. I think there is a False Dilemma at work, and I am going to identify it. Mrs Wolf has suggested to me previously (with merit, I believe) that Mary veneration, at least the modern type and much of what led to it, springs from the practice of Christianity being an Old Boys Club. Women can easily feel left out of things, and Mary veneration helps address that. My problem is that I feel that the usual methods of addressing that would be veneration of Mary (prayers to her, etc.) or veneration of female saints (prayers to them, etc.), and I find EITHER to be doctrinal error, at best. I think we may agree on the problem but not with the solution. I find Mary veneration to be a lazy solution to a deeper problem, one that calls for answers that are doctrinally sound while still addressing the problem. It seems ridiculous to have to say it, but Christianity needs women, and Christianity has room for women, and there is a lot for women there, both to offer them and for them to do, if action is the goal. We do not need to address that by embracing error. (I'm not aiming this at any posters here, just at the doctrine. Please try not to see offense in it. If I've offended in passing, I'm sorry.)

You could have just said it was the AI on Google Search, but it is probably at least as good to say it is a Gemini variant. (Mentioning both is probably better, I suppose.) Previously, you just said it was "from AI", but with no clue where you went (Google Search.) The one I quoted automatically cites its sources, and that's why I used it at all.

Really? Okay. I'll try to come up with it.

Will that work?

Raf please do what you feel is best. My sole reason for this post was to discuss Mary the Mother of Jesus and what Kirk said about Christians not venerating her enough. If he was right then we, whoever wants to, may do good to give it some appreciable thought...thx

This seems rather disingenuous and hypocritical, coming from someone who was known to be an outspoken misogynist. One might even suspect he was pandering. Is that too far off topic? Remove if necessary.

Out of respect: You posted this in atheism. You do NOT want to know what I think of Charlie Kirk. So I will move it and I will ask that we refrain from referring to the killer's motive as "demonic," which (under the umbrella of the atheism forum) is a lazy scapegoating that robs a homicidal a-hole of responsibility for his despicable act. And I will ask that we refrain from politics, which is impossible in a conversation about Charlie Kirk (which is why I feel compelled to change the name of the thread). So henceforth, this thread is narrowed to the following: Do we agree? [moving to doctrinal).

Right artist/Wrong song

correct

Assume that was a typo correct? Moody Blues

They are now.

BUMP ~Joni Mitchell~ Woodstock

Just need the first clue. I haven't been online for a few days. Eric Carman (not that it matters here) "I can't live (if living is without you)" City girls just seem to find out early How to open doors with just a smile

Wasn't he the 'golden boy" who went down with the ship on Titanic? AKA Leonardo DiCaprio Yeah, that's him.

A couple of the names are vaguely familiar, but I'm not placing an actor with any of them. George

Oops I guess the links are working...