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So, I’ve lurked here for a long time, and now with my heart pounding, have created an account and am saying hello. I’ve been out of TWI for over 10 years; it took me almost 10 before that to work my way out. I grew up in twi, birth to twenties. Now I’m working my way through diagnoses of PTSD, anxiety, and depression, all after I thought I’d dealt with the big stuff. I hope you all are faring better, but I’m guessing maybe not if you’re here. A book that is really helping me understand all this is “Combatting Cult Mind Control” by Steven Hassan. If you’re looking for a sometimes distressing but very revealing read, it’s excellent and totally relevant. Happy to be here and hope to “meet” some of you soon. :-)

This is definitely the R&R group. I have given them time and space to show themselves, and they certainly have. Rocky, DWBH, and I can't remember everyone else, you are all correct. They have proved themselves to be idolaters of VPW, rather than restorers of true Christianity. I brought up a question, and all they did was parrot back VPW's stance on the topic. As if that answered my question. It was just a call for blind obedience, like the roman church does. They are more interested in defending his position than getting to the truth.

Wierwille and all of the Way leadership would label the causes I am currently involved in and contributing to "designer causes". Uncle Harry would teach that he used to give to other causes, but now he gives everything to the Way. I think they've got it exactly wrong. Being in a cult is the designer cause. It's the frivolous cause, the one that enslaves many yet produces nothing of value in a community except a bunch of egotistical idiots plotting how to accost people in supermarkets, at home, etc. to convince them to "take the class". You know, the one that was plagiarized originally from BG Leonard, re-worked with the same content in different outline order, and taught by whomever the cult hasn't fired to date. Causes where Christians in Christ's body band together and positively influence communities and genuinely help others those are the genuine causes, those are Christ's work. Whether it is a meal for the homeless a home for the downtrodden or rescuing someone from being drugged up and pimped out all over the world. That's providing value, not ego.