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This would result in Silo Mentality? Emogene's use of bully tactics to suppress rivals is noteworthy.

if wierwille was still alive I bet there’d be a lot of folks believing for him to share a prison cell with Harvey Weinstein and Larry Nassar.

When addressing the corps privately, vpw casually dismissed the actual dangers of hitchhiking- AFTER at least one LEAD participant was raped. He pointed out you could get raped anywhere (he named a few nearby locations). Since it was POSSIBLE to be raped anywhere, he saw no reason to reduce the risk of rape ANYWHERE. BTW, that's legally-actionable. If you run a program like this, in the eyes of US law, you are de facto claiming to the public that you can SAFELY run such a program and are legally responsible to minimize risks reasonably. You have a FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY to keep the participants safe. Your contract with them implies you will keep them REASONABLY SAFE. I know we've always had a vpw defender or 2 who claimed ridiculous things about that, so I will explain in simple terms that even they can understand- even though they will work hard to misunderstand them anyway. Let's say you want to do a "lightbearers" type of witnessing thing in the program. You're expected to have a safe environment for them to act in, and to monitor them and the situation in case there's some unforeseen problem that looms up - even if it's bad weather or a biker gang or something. This does NOT mean "So you bring shotguns for witnessing on the off-chance a biker gang comes around", nor does it mean "So you pack emergency supplies for every possible type of weather event"= although carrying SOME is a good idea, but monitoring the weather is a better one. So, what do you do if your plan of having them witness in a known crack neighborhood backfires? Trick question! You do NOT do a STUPID thing like that! No non-twi or non-extwi program plans things that stupid! Those are OBVIOUS dangers. So the vpw slave asks, snarkily, what you do to teach them believing. (This came up before in response.) It's rather sad but typical that such a person can't imagine a SAFE activity to teach believing or to get someone to "exercise" believing- as if it requires danger to life-or-limb to practice that. Any sensible group provides transportation for their own planned events- except twi, but I did say "SENSIBLE" so I already excluded them. So, no hitchhiking whatsoever, and if something like the LEAD rock-climbing is done, it's done with plenty of professionals overseeing each group, with plenty of safety gear, and OVER-emphasis on the proper gear and not climbing in dangerous weather. We had a horror story of a climbing group that was told to climb in dangerously cold weather. One participant had family that was familiar with travel in freezing weather, and made sure she prepared for subzero outdoor conditions. So, she was the ONLY person in the group that was WELL prepared for such an unsafe climb. She reported how another participant, one who had followed twi's instructions for prepping boots for the cold, had suffered frostbite as a result and severed her own toes on one foot to be able to complete the program. Anywhere outside twi, that sounds completely crazy. Inside twi world, we know that wasn't an outrageous claim because ridiculous things endangered participants' lives all the time. Someone else here REFUSED to blame twi for a vehicle accident. Coming back from LEAD, his group was REQUIRED to operate their vehicle in unsafe winds, ad unsafe speeds, and REQUIRED to get their evaluations done in transit- which distracted the driver. They had a truck that was dragging a trailer hitch on a highway in heavy winds. The trailer contained HUMANS who were not secured in place. When a crosswind hit that insane rig, the entire vehicle-hitch combo was flung in the wind and spun over. People were horribly injured- as if they'd been walking a highway and hit by a car traveling at highway speeds. Any program from groups NOT twi would consider the entire setup INSANE. You don't force people to travel in bad weather when they're safe right where they are. IF they are to travel. they are expected to travel at a safer speed, not pretend they're on a normal highway on a normal day. Finally, the people would be in a safe vehicle- like a passenger van or even an old school bus, and not something that was bound to deflect the wind. The only thing I blame the driver for is agreeing to be in a twi program, since twi dictated all the unsafe things about the incident, and would have kicked out the driver if he'd actually acted safely. What kind of organization puts its people at risk of loss of life or limb? Obviously one where human life is seen as EXPENDABLE and the participants are seen as DISPOSABLE. That's twi as vpw made it, and as practiced when lawyers don't force changes. What does it say about your supposed church group when the only times it reduces risks to its people are when its lawyers say they HAVE TO and have NO CHOICE?

After the lawyers got involved and advised twi to oust Martindale (after two sexual predation lawsuits).......didn't twi have to STOP the illegal mandate of "pay according to your need" that wierwille instituted? So, how does it work now? Does the auto mechanic... or plumber...or electriciam get paid more than the housekeepers? What is the pay scale? $9 an hour? $15 an hour? No overtime pay, right? Also, I think that someone posted that after age 68.....staffers can only work part time. How many hours? 20 hrs per week? 30 hrs per week? All of this is sad, really. Twi seems to justify all this by subsidizing meals, room and board [units and founders hall] for these staffers. So, if you do the math.... at $10 per hour.... some staffers are living on grounds and receiving maybe $20,000 - $22,000 per year. Maybe that works for older staff on social security and don't have any life other than twi, but it sucks for young people to be trapped into a dead-end job. Hard to build any equity on these types of wages.