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Hi all! "rev" gerry is still at it. The absolute smarmiest dictor paul worship sites of them all, are still polluting the worldwide web......LOL. However, despite little gerry's feeble intellect and numerous character defects, he just doesn't want anyone to contradict his "truth" nor his faddah-in-da-Woid's "great teachings" on how to take the place of their absent Christ, (who is indeed absent from their "minustray"). They are as anti(against)-Christ as vic was. They are as accurate as their plagiarist-in-chief, and as full of lies and false doctrines. I'm going to post a few quotes from some of his garbage sites, with some comments. Tell me what you think. "My page is for the edification, comfort, and exhortation of God's people. It is not for arguing about doctrine. If you wish to discuss something with me message me. This page is for speaking things that make for peace, to confirm who we are in Christ, and our hope in him. Thank you. P.S. Please don't use my name in any arguments on other pages." aww.....poor baby doesn't want anyone to "use his name" other than to praise and coddle his sorry little narcissistic self. He's just as opposed to people knowing the truth and facts of all the sexual assaults, incredible ego-trips and money grubbing for gifts schemes he carried out while he was a corpse coordinator and region dope in TWIt. So blatant that even dictor himself didn't want him around anymore and banished him to Cincinnati, OH to abuse those poor people. I love to use his name. I do live in a free country as does little gerry. So, I can use his name anywhere I want to. He presents himself as a "christian minister". He does so publicly and daily. He is therefore "fair game". Sorry little gerry, but them's the facts. I present the real "rev" gerry....the one he wants to make sure everyone knows that he and his idol, DPW, are completely forgiven for all their sins against the church and its members in particular. Oh yeah baby! Anyone who brings up FACTS about dictor and his boyz is just bringing up their "dead" past. This, despite the fact that they've NEVER repented and made restitution to those they raped and robbed, a la Matthew 18. Those ARE the words of the Word of God Incarnate, not some phoney moggie-boys. It's nice to know that "rev" gerry is aware of people "using his name"....LOL. It's forced him to make some changes which I'll point out. This'll be fun!

I got involved with The Way Ministry in Emporia Kansas. A friend of mine introduced me to the Way by going to The Way College Sunday morning fellowship. This occurred in the late 70's. During those years, getting involved was the best thing that ever happened to me in my life. Seeing all the love people had for one another was something I never experience before. I felt so go for many years. I could go on about my life story here regarding the way. I will be brief. Well the 90's came. I knew that even slightly before Dr. Wierwille fell asleep, something about the way was going wrong. It was in the air or I could sense something was not right. I got kicked out of the way during the early 90's because of being in Debt. Martingale was taking being in debt way over his head. He was always telling people to get out of debt. I used to admire Craig Martindale, but that changed in the 90's. Anyway, I miss the the love people had one for another during the 70's and early 80's. I feel sort of an emptiness inside of myself, being around some of the wonderful people I did meet when I first got involved in the early years. Alan

Annio, why can't you connect with your old friends?? It's not for me to tell you what to do, but I love to connect with old friends. Once I get my vaccine shots, I plan on visiting some old friends in RI, and taking a cruise with my family members. They have their views, I have mine. We are adults; we can agree to disagree. If the topics get too political, we can stop, and discuss other things. Best in 2021 to everyone here at the GSC!!

Picking up here re: some emptiness... Any thoughts??- So here's my story- old friends, Branch coordinators (w/ twi and w/ Chris Geer) who left town around '93, have returned, and have finally moved out of Chris Geer mode (and into Gerald Wren's sphere apparently). They had married my h and me in '86; us believers here were a very close knit bunch until things began to fall apart a few years later. Several other folks who moved away (geographically or from my fellowship group) are back too and are joining the above folks around GW. One of them connected w/ me, and invited me to fellowship w/ them / listen to GW phone hook-up. Not going to as I mentioned in another post, BUT! There are still attachments from back then that were unceremoniously severed amidst trauma, and I want to reconnect, heal, and re-establish things on present day Realities. But am NERVOUS! Part of me knows that it could be like going to one's 50th highschool reunion- the emotional ties just won't be there any more. But that would be good to process. Plus I think it could be really good to catch up with them; an awful lot of H2O has gone under our bridges! And maybe later, I would want to find out where they are at doctrinally, and enjoy what we do have in common, and allow gracious room for what we don't... IF they can, and do not become dogmatic etc. Guess that is what I am most nervous about... We were all buddy-buddy and kind to each other when we were "like-minded" around vpw-ianism, but what about now? Well, Covid would only permit phone calls for me, so actually going out for coffee won't happen for awhile... Maybe sooner than later tho... Anyone have similar situations? Thanks!

Well. Gerald Wren and wife made their way to Bloomington IN a few months ago. Got invited to listen to a phone hook-up on Weds... Reading DWBH's thoughts here again clarified things for me; nope, not going to fellowship w/ those folks, even though I would really like to reconnect with old friends that have moved back to town, or who are emerging from Cris Geer land and coming into GW's ministry apparently. Altho Who Knows what things may have changed in GW's thinking since 2016 when DWBH last posted I think? Still don't feel led to join old friends around him. Anyway, thank you for being here GSC-ers! Best in 2021!!

Well I for one have a regret over the years of providing way too much personal encouragement for @$$holes. Yes we stroked their egos. The way they have policy set up strokes their egos. I should not have told them they are great. They aren’t. I was part of the problem. I have since rectified this as you see. The Christians in the Way are part of the body of Christ. A deluded part that needs prayers. One that has a fake family with a lesbian couple at the helm. I mean not that I have extreme issues with the lesbian family part now. It’s just all the lies posturing and need to ruin others lives over preserving the lies that is the biggest evil.

Annio, very interesting topic. Thanks for posting. I just wanted to add my two cents: When I was young, and insecure, I needed a lot of attention. I think for some kids, attention is a form of security; thus it equals love. However, my mother never understood this; she was very self-absorbed. Throughout, my childhood, I felt unloved, and because of it, I was a very insecure, and unhappy person. However, one day, I realized God loves me. What a profound impact that had on me!! God, Almighty, the Creator of Heaven, and Earth, loves me. Why, I will never know; I am nothing special. I'm not gifted in anything; nor am I particularly intelligent. I am not beautiful, nor am I wealthy. But for some reason, God loves me. His son Jesus, died for me, a sinner. In my case, a sinner unknown by most of the world. To this day, that fact astonishes me, but it warms my heart daily. I know my siblings love me, and I love them in return. I have a few friends, that I love dearly. However, my inability to be a perfect, loving person, at all times, is fine with God. He knows my heart; He knows I strive to be a loving, kind person every day. Some days I am, and some days, I'm not. In my own humble way, I strive to be the woman God wants me to be. I don't need the world's love, and acclaim, I have God's. Thus, I am secure nowadays, in ways I wasn't as a child. I don't need to feed my small ego, in self-destructive ways. No power in this world, will ever separate me from God, and His love. None!!

I, too, am angry. It’s also super infuriating that they are still meeting with young women, still grooming, still manipulating the Bible to serve their proclivities

I am just so angry about this! It is the year 2020, "Mr and Mrs B" still think this is acceptable behavior??? After all that was exposed??? They need to be stopped and to feel righteous justice by the laws in place.

Healing IS possible, but a sexual assault victim never "gets over it". I haven't. Sad.

Thanks everybody for all the responses. We all indeed have something in common here.

Sometimes there is a lot of venting needed because we spent years with stuffed feelings and opinions and were not actually allowed to experience our reality, only the reality we were told to accept. It can take awhile to get in touch with the authentic self. And venting things that couldn't be expressed is often part of the process.

Might make a good soap opera “As the Jesus Freaks” No wait...that sounds like the Messiah has issues How about “As the Jesus Freaks Freak” …well anyway, welcome to Grease Spot, Signals2112 !

"Great Treasures (.org) and Bible(in Facebook) are dedicated to helping people read and study the Scriptures. This site is a quiet, theologically-neutral safe haven for reading the Scriptures, chapter by chapter, and book by book. It is provided as a service to the body of Christ at large, to the glory of God. Rev. Walter J. Cummins, Working Translation: A Journey through the Acts and Epistles (2013) is given on this site". This blurb appears at little gerry's "speaktomefather" site under the category of "resource materials". That used to be where little Gerry posted all of bullinger's stuff along with dic wierwille's stuff, and little gerry's letters to the in-Rez corpse at emporia, George Muehler's book, a Grace Bliss bio, and a number of audio tapes by dictor Paul himself. Don't know where he hid all those. Birds of a feather, or birds of their faddah-in-da-woid, dictor paul wierwille. Cummins, Wrenn, Crouch, and others teach at JP's son's (V2P2) cult in MS, SOWERS. Cummins is still "working" with the busdriver geer on the advanced class redux that dictor commissioned them to do on his deathbed(sic!). Little gerry is hooked into his ECU pirate buddies earl "the pearl" burton, geoooooorrrrge hendley, "rev" Dougie super-secret-double-probation-security-killer-guy macmullan at SOWERS which sits on dougie's old family farm, jallyroll francencough's TLTF, and their old 1st corpse brutha, Bo Reahard, Bruce Mahone, professor ludwig Von schoenheit, Jim Melton, Maurice goulet, Lester Wiley carver, and a dozen other offshoot cults. These are the REAL corpses ya know! Faithful to their dead, waterlogged, cancerous idol under da fountain. They're all just so socially proper yet remain deluded by their right-wing JBS-rooted theology. They NEED TO RULE! No matter how big or small, they need to tell the world what's right. A bunch of pompous, self-important spoiled brats like the old landed Confederate Aristocracy, with very similar political beliefs. Final thoughts? CAVEAT EMPTOR.