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"Golden child" hmm. Maybe vic admired her, perhaps she could "play" like the "big boys".. well, history has born that out, anyway..

based on the facts.. I think a *reasonable* person would come to the conclusion that they are a twisted couple of sorts.. Rosie the "enabler" did manage to loosen loy's mog like grip from twi and his wife, by supplying him with what he wanted.. either by accident or deliberate design.. Let him stay busy with several "one time affairs" and extra-curricular "activities".. turn a blind eye. buddied up with his wife.. any POSSIBLE intent on her part can't be exactly "noble". In my opinion.

"not normal people he's slandering.." thank you George.. Captain, I suppose one could argue the subtle differences between mugging and armed robbery.. I think they tarnished their own reputation to the extent that if you call them ANYTHING, it's an improvement.. It is a telling fact that when loy was "removed" from his position and residence at twi, donna stayed behind with ole rosie.. as.. "administrative assistant". Her own, conscious choice.. she chose a position with "rosie" over accompanying HER OWN HUSBAND. Looking at it from rosie's point of view.. at a time when a wife and family was unceremoniously put in a U-haul truck to accompany the husband and father when he was fired, as an almost standard operating procedure at der vey.. rosie makes an EXCEPTION for donna??? One must ask "why".. "oh, I felt sorry for her.." Oh. She didn't feel sorry for anyone else? Ra*lp D. knew what was going on between the two.. At least one person claims to have caught them in the "dirty deed".. The "couple" went on vacations together.. rented a room with onlyone bed.. ASSUMING that homosexuality is a sin, and as such despicable.. if they are not, they certainly have not "abstained from all appearance of evil". What I wonder.. if it really IS slander.. why no lawsuits? Perhaps they are waiting for the witnesses to die off, or to get old enough to forget what happened... I think they are intelligent enough to know that if they chose to stir this particular pot, it would REALLY be the end of twi.. the rest of the followers would either leave or run them out of town on a rail.

Hmm. Maybe they pulled in the welcome mat..

Note: I am not indiscriminately bashing offshoots here, or encouraging other posters to do the same. I did leave one option to politely do so if one wishes though.. :) But I have actually witnessed some people choose option one. It was like they woke back up in twig somewhere..

well.. got one vote! If that's all I get, I guess it represents the general consensus here..

As many as you can dream up, I'm sure.. we could even have "stretched" coffee in used styrofoam cups if we wanted..

Viagra? Happy Pill? It's the old blue pill from "the Matrix".. you know.. swallow the red one, you get reality.. swallow the blue one, and you wake up in twig in 1973 or so..

The Indian Nationalists desperately wanted the British out of India.. Gandi offered an argument (my paraphrase of it) "If they indeed DO leave, what are you going to do? Still live like the British? What's the point then of kicking them out, if life is going to go on the same as it was before?" "ahem, well..." :) MOST offshoots espouse twi doctrine, with FEW changes.. I would say a person could walk into one of the meetings tomorrow, and you'd hear tongues with interpretation and prophecy, that sounds remarkably like a message one heard twenty years previously in twi. They may call it a different name, but their classes have a remarkable similarity to pfal. SOME of the offshoots have the same potential for abuse, and feature a head, authoritarian individual, or VERY FEW on a board. So.. we've gotten rid of rosiebark, the loyster, and "he who never mixes his breads and vegetables".. but what has fundamentally changed?

hmm. looks like four out of thirty-six would go back of their own volition.. but three of them would go just to throw old rotten tomatos. one out of thirty six would actually be willing go back.. the results so far are not exactly suprising.

Hey.. that's a thought. We'll have to get together, schedule a meeting. I'll have my lawyers call your lawyers..

I would hope to think that maybe it is just a poor choice of words.. "everybody abuses.." I think it is "everybody hurts somebody, either intentionally or unintentionally, somewhere along the line.." I would define abuse as intentional harm. Battering somebody with words or fists is pretty intentional.

hmm. I think I've seen this before.. *bricks, bricks, you can't have a thread without some bricks..* sowy.. :)

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Thanks for your reply Roy. I think in a way, we have full power to do with the way as we see fit.:) I quit smoking (tobacco) about twenty or so years ago.. until recent years I would wake up from a dream where I was still smoking.. "what in the *?*#@ am I doing to myself was my first conscious thought..

sounds like some old old married couples I have met.. Bickering.. picking at each other.. "Daggone it Donna, if you'd just hold still, I'll squeeze the boil.." sowwy..

That's about the finest piece of logic I've seen here for a long time.. Same for me. If it was what I thought it was, I wouldn't have been eyeball to eyeball with a madman.

No, they don't condemn anybody on a website, do they.. they just assasinate people's characters in closed meetings and behind their backs.

well.. if they cut five or six holes in the main curtain.. had the directors stick their heads through them.. loy would make a special appearance in the middle hole, of course. Passed out the tomatos.. I'd have to at least consider at least one final Sunday night sevice.. might be entertainment worth the price of gas for an over 250 mile trip..

honestly, the only one that would remotely even tempt me would be choice number seven..

Just wonder..

Good strategy.. Understatement of a lifetime.. :biglaugh:

Hmmm. Well, a half a dozen or so, and I don't chase my tail, at least as frantically..

Hey, I've even had my rabies shots.. no worries for anybody..