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As adamant as they are, clueless and conscienseless, they do serve a purpose. I think the opinions and demeanors expressed are representative of the kind of crap we had to endure in twi. Like Howey Yuck Allen said, no man is "useless". They can always be held out as a bad example.

Yeah.. I heard about that. I wondered what kind of "preparations" they REALLY had at old hq. With a meltdown, you'd hafta have a lot of ammo or something to disuade local looters and such from making claims. Maybe they had a couple gallons of distilled water and a few cans of beans they could store away in a locked closet.. I still like the bunker theory. "As civilization and her 'army' falls to the allies, rosie is hiding in her downtown Berlin titantic bunker. Your mission is to infiltrate and eliminate her, bringing an end to her mad reign of terror.." well, it would make an interesting computer game.

Thanks for the kind comments, heheh. Yeah, no airplane now though, that I know of. They sold "ambassador one" a number of years ago. Just makes me wonder though. If things REALLY went "south", "they" and their precious resources would not be very safe, unless they buried themselves under twenty feet of cement or something. It would be almost a scene out of Dr. Strangelove. The board, anxiously waiting for the word, "Mssss. President, what can we do?" Dr. Strangeloy would wheel up into the light. In his best german accent.. "vellll. Eeeets notsa bad. Staff's pets could be bred, and shlaughered.."

The clock is ticking thread go me to think about this for a moment. I wonder where will they, rosie, donna, howard.. all the rest go in the event of a world wide economic melt down? Considering they are supposed to have every eventuality planned, I wonder what they would do, or have planned. These sycophants have been living on stolen labors for so long, I really don't think they could fend for themselves very well. I could hardly see rosie out plowing a field by hand, or digging for sustenence, though she resembles an old, worn, farmer.. Maybe, they have a vault of food, and would lock themselves in it for fifty years or so.. oh, the little side benefits of a disaster.. Maybe they'd try to convince L*nder to defend them, and go hunt for some meat with his "big gun".. "Boy, didn't I TELL YOU to GO GET US SOME FOOD???" I think he'd figure out in rather short order that they are "expendable". Does this make any sense to anyone else, or did my brain just go "a little funny" today?

The god that needs a man to satiate his earthly lusts with innocent women to energize the man's "ministry" is not worthy of my respect. "RELIEVE da man of gawd of his tensions, so he can go about doing good.." I read somewhere about the people of the town hiring prostitutes for the priests so they'd lay off their wives and daughters.. They could make the same claim, the priests that is.. "thousands now saved (given penitence)" "Real Deal" alright. Right out of the dark ages..

Yes, welcome. I hope your stay is a pleasant one. Have fun, and watch out for flying tomaters. I'm sorry to hear about your marriage. Are you still in contact with the kids?

These kind of attacks really show what TWI was like. Very typical, "it didn't happen", "well, if it did, it was worth it, I got the VERD, besides, THOUSANDS 'got saved'" I think it's more like "millions now smoking.." Rascal, I think this kind of calousness exhibited by some posters is very much on the topic of the thread here. At least as a case history. They seem to hold the same opinions they did YEARS ago in der vey. No change, no consideration, no remorse, no logic, no learning. "no new research". I don't think they ever really left der vey. "This is your brain. this is your brain in a cult. Any questions?" I think it is just one more example of the TWI mentality. I don't think it's a matter of TWI being good, on it's own terms. Never will happen. I don't think the attitudes will ever change on their own. They still think the holocaust is a hoax, think the survivors are mistaken "whiners". Would we expect any less of an attitude towards the women who were abused by bible-toting dirtbags? I still think it needs to be flogged into submission. All I can say is, if somebody reads this stuff, and still wants to "join" or go back to der vey, their blood is on their own head. Yep. Ask the local guy trying to recruit you... "what abuse? what lawsuits? you've been on the internet, haven't you.."

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If indeed karma and reincarnation turn out to be true, it would be very fitting that some among us came back as WOMEN, in "service" of the MOG. Really. "servants" of the "greatest bestest", latest, HUCKSTER. But I wouldn't wish what some people here got on my worst enemy. Even if the Apostle Paul were proven to do the same kind of evil, after being "converted", I'd spit on his grave too.

My math 300 instructor would take five points off for something like this..

Interpretation: "I raped, pillaged and plundered, even when I KNEW BETTER". I imagine the next thought was "ah, if only I was young again.." Ya know, ole vic did manage to relive his youth, vicariously, through loy.. loy grew up to be not the man that vic knew to be too.

Once upon a midnight drear, I drank a little too much beer. I stumbled, shook, and wobbling swayed as I walked along the way. Pink elephants I never met till surfing on the internet. Once home I took a quick cold shower, and gave the puter some nice fresh power. I surfed until the light of day until I browsed greasespot cafe. The page looked nice, and neatly done the forums looked like they were fun. but Rosie's pic brought on great fear, I pulled the plug, and blamed the beer.

One kid here, child of two "faithful" ones here, kinda dissapeared quietly into the next town. I was really suspicious. Any inquiry was met with "oh, he's doing fine.." with little details. I got the impression that for me to talk with him was the last thing they wanted.

I mean, we haven't seen hide nor hair of the wolf after the first post. You'd think a person would have enough good sense to know that making a statement like "I love vic, no matter WHAT people say here" is kinda like tossing a couple hundred pounds of fresh hamburger into a shark tank.. Maybe.. maybe he's on the cabinet at der vey. Checking things out.. seeing the possible consequences of re-instituting PFAL as their bread and butter program.. Well, now they know..

What I wonder is if he is J.L. Or maybe somebody wanting to open a new Belezian type fellowship in the U.S. Just testing the waters, toss out a tasty, choice "I love Wienerville" statement just to see what would happen..

Good for you.However, I know a few who indeed did. That's nice. If it's "negative", or bursts the illusion that all was so fine and dandy, you don't accept the truthfulness of the account. What about the others? ah. "negative", must not be telling the truth, doesn't agree with "reality". We were conned. The job was so good, people still don't know that they paid for a cart of horse manure with the blood, innocence and sanity of their own brethren. "what did the 'word' cost you?"

Just wonder. Where in the world do you think loy LEARNED his despicible behavior? He didn't just make it up as he went along. Not just loy either. The group was/is corrupt from top down. Who was at the top?

They kept EVERYTHING. "birth to da corpses" paper, "evaluations", "leaders" comments and impressions. Personally, I'd be kinda "creeped out" to find the then "mog" had his greasy fingers on MY personal data, thinking of the "possibilities".

The despicable part of it.. those jackasses who willfully, with premeditation, chose their victims were the same ones sitting up front, sharing "der verd", acting as the most holy.. we "learned" from hypocrites, and worse. At least ONE lady was confronted with vics "greatness" as he sat there with her evaluation and other paper work IN HAND. He chose his victims based on the data he had on the corps. That little "my life before the corpses" paper showed him who would do what. People with past abuse were often the ones singled out.

In a way, I can see how someone can deny or minimize this kind of thing. It's too "shocking", too "heavy".. really is a blow to what some people think of as "reality". This kind of premeditated abuse and rape of God's people really show the depths of evil that was the underbelly of twi. Still there. Rosie KNEW. Donna KNEW. At least loy is gone.. one step in the right direction..

Yeah. "They" also had all of the paperwork from your past, the paper where you "spilled your guts" and told them everything about your background. Plus evaluations, etc. etc. They KNEW who would be pliable, who would submit, who would talk, and who wouldn't.

Bolshevik, just wonder.. who are they? I know of half a dozen or so they've chased off.. Is it REAL minister experience, or in-house TWI minister "experience"? I'm not trying to be critical or funny (an exception to the rule here ) Just want a little clarification.

Hey, get his name, I'll see if I can do something. But if it's Cletus or Rufus, I think you're better off just letting him chew..

Armed, well.. here is one of my cousins in Michigan. Last I knew he was in a militia here or something.. Then there's cousin Cletus and Rufus from the deep south. Careful there Socks, I think you were lucky that time..

What's even worse, those who are in conflict are PERMANENT "shareholders" in the organization. Can't vote them out to put them out of their misery, so to speak..