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Well, hooray for the Saran Wrap! Just curious. What do you use the Vaseline for?

David, I was wondering when somebody was going to make that point. :P--> But that's what I would have thought, years ago.. Twenty Percent??!!! One expensive little parking spot!

The Krogers store has one of these little gems.. faded sign. I accidently parked in it one day, and the looks I got from some of the ladies walking by..

Well, I'll never look at Filet Mignon quite the same ever again.. But you're right.. "Ptomaine Palace" is still alive (but not well), busy hawking its wares to the FEW that don't have internet access, or those who do not much more of a choice (staff mainly). Still raises its ugly head out of the mire once in a while. Look at the nice pick of the week "endorsement" they tried to use recently. Trying to manufacture more growth? They've gotta be kidding. Gads, they don't need more sales efforts, they need a new product line. Can't make a cash cow out of a dead horse..

"God had a form of rocket fuel underneath the continents. This is what made them to divide in the days of Peleg". Not exact words, but if anybody kept their WAP syllabus (I didn't :)-->) maybe they could give me the exact wording.. Unbelievable.. "The devil froze stuff out and brought the ice age" Equally ludicrous. There has been more than one ice age. Well, must've been more than one fall of lucifer then.. "Physical matter is antecedant to light" Equally ludicrous. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Hope it wasn't because I have bad breath or something.. Anyway, I enjoyed your company. Hope you come back soon..

OK! Well, we'll talk about it with "Uncle Hairy", and if he's game we're on! If not, maybe we need a new "Santa"..

Who's saying VP LCM and Horneyhands WERE the messenger? History kinda repudiates that claim. VP, LCM and Horneyhands may have been pretenders, con artists, plagiarists- but no, not the messenger- in my opinion. I think in a lot of ways, they were like some of the worst kings in Israel. They got cut out of the book..

Well, I'm sure not telling anyone. Nope, not me..

Never seen anybody park a camel in front of a store, but heck- anything's possible..

24. Coffee will NOT be served in re-used, bleached, styrofoam cups. A real espresso maker will be available at all times, with genuine Indonesian (or similar) coffee, ground for each batch.

Yep. I can hear you coming, a tiny voice, "hya, hya mule..", cracking a tiny whip.. Camels is SOOOO stupid.

heh heh heh.

I don't think this line of reasoning nulifies the idea that all of us are special, or unique. Or can be.

Well, maybe YOU are special!

Well, if Groucho is up to it, I guess anything is possible.. he IS the driver, after all. Just have to find where I put that darn glad-wrap.. No toga pictures. I "renewed my mind" sufficiently to "cover the past".

Ahhh, the freedom of it all. What freedom you ask? Well, the last fifty times I parked in the back of the darn lot, it wasn't because I was a slimy, unbelieving flea on the back of a possessed camel, either.

Too bad for the local fellowship though.. if I was still going, they could claim some kind of "victory"..

Two momentus days ago, I had to go to, gasp- by myself, to the darkest place in town, WalMart. As I pulled up, the car in THE FRONT ROW pulled out, and I pulled in. I did not even give it a thought: 1. That it was an answer to prayer 2. That that is how the Almighty awarded me for being faithful in "da househole". 3. That somehow, it showed that I was supposedly special or something.. 4. That those who pulled in and had to park in the rear of the lot were somehow "inferior" to almighty ME. 5. That the lord had to move heaven and earth, for my convenience. Really- didn't think one of these- just thought about it today.

23a. And blue jeans and T shirt are required.

"What about THE PEOPLE?" Personally, I don't think God Almighty is quite as bound and gagged as we think. "If its to be" its not necessarily up to me. Sure, I do my part.. but I'm not so damned egotistical anymore to think that somehow the whole stinking universe is waiting for me to act, or something..

A lot of us took the same stinking beatings from "them", over, and over, and over.. If you ask "why don't you just get over it?" I say, you've got to be kidding. Nobody ever really gets over it. For me, it was over twenty two years invested in that rats nest. Doing more and more, just hoping it would finally click in or something.. Twenty two years of wasted efforts are just not going to go away. But I am "getting on with my life", believe it or not.. Now they would LOVE to do the same, with my kids. They'd receive them with open arms, and smiles and giggles.. One instance, they desperately tried. Friggin bastards. Can't say this is all so irrelevant to today's life. I wish it was.

Problem is, the horse is not dead. It refuses to die. It still promotes the same kind of nonsense, same kind of abuse, only worse than before. More blatant, more devilish. So what do you do with a rotten, stinking, controlling, thieving, devilish, conscienceless horse that refuses to die? Oh well, its a gruesome job, but somebody has to do it I guess.. I have nothing but the highest admiration for these people, even to this day. At the least, I feel pity for them. If they are still busy raking God's people over hot coals, I think they deserve some (continued) contempt. I think most of us woke up, and found what we were "sold" was not all it was cracked up to be. Nor was a lot of it "the Word". For me, it took YEARS of failed efforts before coming to this conclusion. Not an extreme change after all, at least to me. Personally, all I saw was talk. Maybe a good talk, but just... talk. I don't discount the Lord's ability, I question man's. Years of dedicated, loving effort, and I never saw anybody raise even a stinking dog from the dead. No walking on water, no this, no that- but THAT was "available". When it did NOT happen, "well, results are not guaranteed". What I observed: any question about "where's the beef?" was artfully assigned to the category of "seeking for signs". "Bad, bad Thomas. you oughta know better.."

I think you guys are outdoing me, heh heh. Jim, good point, except I perhaps would substitute "very ripe tomatoes" for "spitballs made from sylabus pages".

Alan, I thought I would answer the question here. MY OPINION: No. He did not believe in believing, he believed in God, and God's unlimited ability to perform what was NEEDED. I think "whatsoever ye desire (or ask) when you pray" is not "whatsoever your little heart could desire, if money is no object". How short-sighted we are at times.. "God, give me ten million dollars".. When it doesn't happen, and we (or I) were the most positive, "properly" motivated "believers", having no doubt, someone has to explain why. "Well, maybe you weren't really believing". I suggest otherwise. Perhaps there is something fundamentally wrong with the doctrine itself. Maybe God WANTS the mountain in question to be right where He put it. Maybe He's worked eons to get it just right.. maybe He thinks it looks pretty right where its at. If He's gone to all the trouble dressing up the place, what business do I have mucking it up? I think one of the WORST things to happen to the world would be for me to be able to believe to get whatever I wanted.