karmicdebt

Why do you want to cancel as opposed to stop visiting?

Young Frankenstein ("taffeta, darling, taffeta") Princess Bride ("Have fun storming the castle, boys")

Very clever! :)-->

Classical - Bach - Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring Contemorary jazz - The Rippingtons - Weekend in Monaco Jazz-Jazz - Ray Charles and Betty Carter -Baby, It cold outside. Frank Sinatra (W/ Count Basie) - Fly Me to the Moon- Old Rock - Eagles - I can't tell you why... Old School - Barry White - Can't get enough of your love Sly & The Family Stone - Everyday People & Dance to the Music New Wave - The Clash - Clampdown & Train in Vain Elvis Costello - I write the book & Olivers Army Reggae- Bob Marley - No Woman No Cry & Buffalo Soldiers Hip Hop- Digital Underground - Same Song Tupac - Keep your head up, to live & die in LA, life goes on, i get around Public Enemy - He got Game OTHER NOTE WORTHY: Maxwell- Ascension Hall & Oates - Sara Smile Big Country - Big Country Billy Holiday - Come Rain or Come Shine TLC - No scrubs The Black Crows - Thorn in my pride Lenny Cravitz - Are you gonna go my way What was the question? [This message was edited by karmicdebt on July 25, 2003 at 13:41.]

Mike, Someone is looking for you at www.eph320.com. He may require a lot of your time. If you can't get back to us, we understand!

Thanks for the heads up. I'll get my boots on...

try again. Actually, Simon knows since he had the commitment to make it here. And you people call yourselves Way Corps!?! Why, I've got more Corps commitment in my little finger...

that guy who knew all the answers! PS: But don't "out" him...that may "out" me and I'd rather be forgotten if you know what I mean...but we can private topic all the gossip you need to know, darlin'!

Well, if I may jump in...I'm not 9th corps, but was engaged to one...you have mentioned him a few times... The folks arrived decent and in order. Some were put out by my Amway presentation...I don't understand why. It must be something in their walk with the Father... We all came out as to who we really were and our GS addiction. Manifestations were not right on. The rest of the time was spent eating and playing 7 degrees of separation. Exxie did a satellite hook-up. A total high-light, but someone didn't want to share their minutes :)-->...so, she was quickly excommunicated. I had a lot of fun and will be ready to do it again next month...(I'm thinking of selling AVON, maybe water softeners...Herbal Life) I'm not sure but if it doesn't have a cult following I won't bother. Let me know if I can put you on the guest list! Bring a friend and receive a free gift!

MJ, it's a firecracker or small bomb...

Okay, toogreyt...now I am forced to search your posts and see what you have revealed about your personal beliefs! Ah, a mission! ;)-->

After lunch I need to see Rocky in the AZ get-together room. The rest of the afternoon is self-structure time.

God is love and light and good. How can He hate, anger, etc. Mike, God left VPW to his own devices. That is why VPW has such a tarnished reputation. That is why he has few who hold him in any regard. His legacy is that he was a lying, cheating, stealing, sexual predator. That is perfect justice. God didn't do anything but let truth reveal itself. [This message was edited by karmicdebt on July 17, 2003 at 18:29.]

Okay...I mentioned before, I love memoirs...most recently I've read "Don't Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight" by Alexandra Fuller. Great book about her growing up a white Anglican in South Africa during the 1970's (and the war) Amazing story... I also read "Mayflower Bastard" by David Lindsay. Lindsey is a decendant of Richard More, put on the Mayflower at age 5 to be taken care of by strangers and his life there after. Pretty good. Documented history...kind of a "guy" book....lots of information about ships and the religious groups of the time. He had a friend killed as a witch in Salem... I have also have but not yet finished..." The Lakota Way...sweet stories passed through the Lakota Tribe teaching personal values and faith. Just for fun I read "The Best of Dorothy Parker" (LOVE HER!) and "The Wit of Oscar Wilde" For mysteries...not exceptional but a friend got me started on Tony Hillerman who wrote The Wailing Wind, The Blessing Way, Talking God, etc....All mysteries taking place in New Mexico on the Navajo Res. I like the characters and the bits history and culture in them. Now, my son returned the other day with our only copy of HP5 so...That's where I'll be the next couple of days.

Who said it was negative? I actually like you better having heard some really nice things about you, Mike.... ADD edit.... It's like you saying, " I am not a dick, I just play one on Grease Spot." I only realize there is more to you than all of your posting here... [This message was edited by karmicdebt on July 12, 2003 at 17:04.]

Mike, I don't need to go to San Diego to see. I already know a lot about your personal life...remember I was a San Diego believer too...I hate shame and that was not my intention. It just seems the more you are questioned the more condesending you become. You keep delivering the message that if we get back to PFAL our lives will be more than abundant...that the promises of the green card will come to life. You keep telling us that you bring this message after all these years of study...but if you are not manifesting this life of which you speak then it is just a lot of words. More importantly, it is these words that are causing a great division in the body. Look at this thread. You have those who stay and argue and those who leave all together. GSers get so frustrated trying to talk to you they go and start another thread just to vent. God is not glorified and NO ONE is getting "delivered". Every organization, religion, mlm....uses personal success stories to get interest. I propose when you have really mastered it, come back and post. Everything you tell us is lacking in our lives is also lacking in yours. We are all the same, but unlike you, we have learned from the one mistake you keep hammering away at us to go back to... I am just tired, Mike...You keep twisting things and changing things and critizing things and this thread has not put to rest one thing... I like ya, Mike....I'm just tired...

Mike, Show me other comparisions you have with JC manifested in this world. Then maybe you can be can be listed in the same company... Do we need to list what Christ did his short time on this planet? We won't even talk historically, we can just use the stuff VPW mentioned in his books, teachings, etc.

Mike, I love my parents dearly, I have a dozen brothers and sisters with whom I am extrememly close. My relationships with them are not even close to what I feel about the children I gave birth to. No you can't compare the two...

And with reference to promises of God...how many of your enemies did God actually, smite? I have submitted my list to God in triplicate at least and those bast*rds are still here and doing well I might add... And doing the works and greater works of JC. Man, I still haven't walked on water. Please tell me after 5 years of daily working this stuff....how many promises do you have down pat? Cuz' if these "promises" are in you that you don't even need to consider...you know, just realized, like the all 9 all the time...then maybe you really do have something to offer us... Signs,miracles and wonders follow them that believe, right....well let us see your trail... Not trying to bust your balls here...just want to know...

how many children do you have, Mike? Tell us how you can promote "truths" that you can not really comprehend, having no reference point or experience...

"Has anyone noticed anything about the intensity level of the woman's fear regarding her little boy?" Yeah, they are not real people. They are imaginary people designed to prove and imaginary point....

"Another thought on the intensity requirements for believing or fear, Job said it was what he GREATLY feared that got him." He DID NOT!!! He said the thing he greatly feared happened. You act as though because he feared it it happened...that is not what it says!!! To take a belief and bend scripture around it is not right. To take a verse and give it power is not right. Fear is a survival mechanism built in us to protect us. It is not a metaphysical power used to trip us up.

let's all say, "good-bye, Mike"! Then we can debate other thought provoking ubiquitously hidden messages. Take Tom Stranges' posts....I think he is trying to relay some kind of message to us..see the way he uses humor to explain the psycho/spiritual dichotomy? You just have to get that one... Good-bye, Mike!

Mike, You have no idea what your talking about. It might sound good in your ears, but it's crap. Life is suffering...and I don't care if John Paul or Ringo says...I WISH... that you prosper and be in health...It DOES NOT mean it's a promise!!! If you are ill, you need to learn the lesson from it....there is so much more to life than to deny reality and run for cover...Stop blaming the adversary and people... You have a karmic debt to pay and in this life it appears to be mental illness. Learn the lesson or do it again, Mike!

E.W Thanks for the history lesson. I never knew that. Very cool....