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And yet there are those of us who believe exactly in who Jesus was/is and the words/revelation he gave. i.e. "strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life", "I am the way,the truth and the life." "No man cometh to the Father but by me" etc...etc.. Like V.P. said..."Jesus either meant what he said or he lied". To me those examples of statements made by Jesus are neither paradoxical, lyrical, or hypothetical. They are an actual reality, to me.!! I am at peace about them, I don't need to analyze them to death nor look for a 'deep' spiritual meaning to them. I accept them as they are, the Words of God, and one day we find out how precisely how right they were or how wrong we were in our 'interpretation' of them.

Abi...so you continue to s.i.t. even though you doubt it's authenticity ? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense ? Why would you want to continue with something you felt was not genuine. ? May I submit to you that it is one of those things that you cannot reconcile with your current belief ? I'm glad it helps you sleep, after all, one of the benefits of s.i.t. is 'rest to the soul' !! (And I believe you're born-again)...so there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know whatever I say will come across as 'judgemental' but what the heck...So, the Jews are still waiting for the Messiah to come the first time ? Was Jesus of Nazareth their messiah or do they look for another ? Was Jesus Gods' only begotten son ? (somehow i know what the answers will be, but you might surprise me ? ! )

Hypothetically though, if Jesus turned up in Jerusalem today with the same message, what do you think MIGHT happen ?

Ditto to what Johnny Lingo said. As time wore on though one of my good friends remarked to me it hit him one day when he was driving through his local town that the 'unbelievers' looked happier than he was !!

John 15: 14 " You are my friends IF you do whatsoever I command you "- Jesus. Which tends to make me think that the reason Jesus 'hung' with publicans and sinners was to win them. If they refused to believe I'm sure they weren't counted as his friends (as such). A friend of publicans and sinners who decided to believe. And Mo, come on, LDS can be just as nasty with former church members whom they refer to as 'inactive believers'.

And I'm sure they won't make the same mistake twice !!

And why do you have a problem writing G-O-D. If it's a religious problem, try writing something like, oh, I don't know...Abba Father, or Dad ?? Note : this is not an 'attack' (before you start screaming) but just something i disagree with 'strongly' (as outlined in the GSC manual )

personally speaking, a group of people that hold onto Jewish beliefs that were so 'blinded' that they murdered their own savior doesn't do much for me !! (imho)

I know you think 2027 for it Roy, but after reading 'the prophecy' again I tend to think 2007 is a better bet !! Anyway, would you or I mind if it happened earlier ?!! Make sure you're ready bro, your calling and election sure. I'm sure you've been working 'overtime' in the rewards basket...cause we're going soon.

um...I think that's the kind of post Chas was talking about. (and if not) I agree with people being more upfront with who they are and what they post here for. What 'ticks' me off are those who 'slip in' and start 'beating their chests' when the reality is some of them were NEVER involved in twi.

Look forward to seeing you in the air real soon Roy. With a big hug and a holy kiss to YOU bro.

I ended up with a serious blood disorder. Prayer, accepting healing, (and a course of olive leaf extract) voila...healed ! One can also access CFF guest book and read some recent minor and major healings that have happened recently, one especially in Bristol, England.

Justify what you typed all you want Todd ! I may post a number of differn't things and replies and remarks but I have never, ever told anyone to shut their freakin' mouths. I left that crap behind me in New Knoxville. Now it seems that type of behavior is being mirrored from a little town called Bend. The only time I see behavior like yours these days is from over-zealous cult leader wannabes. Come on 'Tom', rationalise and defend his pm to me. Kellie..is this what your 'man' is like when YOU get him upset. All you 'Sacred Art of Living centre' people and anamcara 'apprentices'...is this how you are treated during your apprenticeship years if you 'disagree' with any of their 'doctrine' And while I'm at it Todd...I went onto your ministries website. I find JESUS CHRIST is disturbingly missing in it's core beliefs, but then sometimes what is not said speaks ten thousand words, ay.

Welcome_to_your_control_panel.htm They say one can know a man (or woman) by the way they handle their anger.

Yeah it is actually Oaks...kind of peaceful in an undisturbed believing sort of a way. Tom..if you don't have a problem with people using profane language then I guess that says a little about you as a person. What part don't you get ?? I still believe 95 % of what was taught via pfal. Do you want me to just scan and post all the books for you and at the end I can say "this is what I believe" ??!! If you don't know what it is about pfal that I believe then maybe Mike is right...go back and master the stuff. Todd and Clay...I personally believe you're a couple of 'sick puppies'. I shudder to think what you whisper in the ears of the terminally ill you work with before they take their last breath. My prayer to God is that your Anamcara theme park is shown for what it really is and (maybe) gets added to John Juedes list of cults !!

Sorry...it was an attempt at being FUNNY ! As it turns out, now it seemed he lived for nearly an hour after the blast.

You see, I really don't need to add 'substance' to what some of you are promoting as your beliefs. I just let you 'waffle' on and myself and others can draw our own conclusions. INNER awareness, SELF-consciousness, SELF-realisation etc.. Most of us should already know that double speak. Most of you should know my beliefs are fairly consistent with pfal, so if you were ever in twi (which I seriously doubt Todd and Clay ever were) you would assume correctly that I don't need pages and pages to back up what I believe. As for 'taken to task' by moderator for postings Todd...try not to be so 'foul-mouthed' with your words.

[edited out]...Does it bother you that you and Todd have got the foulest mouths on this forum ?? Dancing/clay/cm..why would anyone take anything you say seriously when you keep changing your pseudonym willy nilly (like what are you trying to conceal) ...rhetorical question. Why are you and Todd so (zealous) to explain away the return of Jesus Christ ? This week I will try to find the 'general creed' of these spiritualist churches (which I have somewhere) and I will post it. Then people can see why you are posing the questions you are posting. Whilst on that ...[edited out]

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You two crack me up..well planned I might say but childish nevertheless

I also find it very interesting that a number of 'spiritualist churches' teach that ONE DAY all the BAD PEOPLE are going to be suddenly TAKEN AWAY from this earth so that TRUE spiritual harmony can take place. Church of the Golden Light Rod is one of these 'spiritualist churches'. Very interesting.

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As CWF said...how bizzare !!